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Julian Assange has reached a plea deal with the U.S., allowing him to go free

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What dirt did Assange release on Hillary Clinton?

https://wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Democratic_National_Committe...

>The emails and documents showed that the Democratic Party's national committee favored Clinton over her rival Bernie Sanders in the primaries.[6] These releases caused significant harm to the Clinton campaign, and have been cited as a potential contributing factor to her loss in the general election against Donald Trump.[7]

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post #270

Despite what his defenders claim, he went beyond journalism and actively engaged in process to obtain and disclose national defense information. Now he will pledge guilty for that.

> Despite all his defenders, he went beyond journalism and actively engaged in process to obtain and disclose national defense information.

"National Defence Information" ... is that what we're calling "War Crimes" these days?

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post #76

What could he possibly do next (if he avoids a prison term)?

Get a gig with a Russian media outlet, again... See if Roger Stone has any work for him to do? See if GRU has any more deliveries it needs him to make? https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/how-t...

oh how his fans are going to get an awful taste in their mouth when they realize which side he is on

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post #228

Julian Assange's years of torment (14 years, which in many countries exceeds the length of parole eligibility for a life sentence) affected how I viewed the world and my political leaning. It wasn't clear how what he did wasn't journalism. Daniel Ellsberg who was bound by US laws didn't suffer like this; and Assange is not even a US citizen. Remember the people who didn't stand by him: The entire left. Most European…

>who were collaborating in a decade of torture; that he had to be protected by Ecuador is an utter shame.

Oh come on. No matter your opinion on the whole situation you can't say sitting in an Ecuadorian embassy is torture lol. Dude had his girlfriend, internet, and pets. Calling the self imposed stay torture is beyond absurd. BFFR

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> Court documents revealing Assange's plea deal were filed Monday evening in U.S. District Court for the Northern Mariana Islands, a U.S. territory in the Pacific Ocean. Assange was expected to appear in that court and to be sentenced to 62 months, with credit for time served in British prison, meaning he would be free to return to Australia, where he was born. I wouldn’t get too excited just yet. He is appearing in…

IANAL but the judge can't both reject the plea deal and sentence him, since rejecting the plea deal invalidates the guilty plea. Rejecting it and remanding him to custody would cause a diplomatic incident.

He's not out of the woods yet by any means, but if they reached a deal his lawyers are confident in, I wouldn't be worried about the judge. They are supposed to deffer to international law if US is a party to the treaties involved (which in the case of extradition, it is).

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information should be free, exposing US war crimes shouldn't be illegal

I'm personally glad that the Allies were able to keep the information about their plans to land on the beaches in Normandy from "being free", in order to catalyze their victory in WWII. But I think, charitably, what people mean when they say things like this is that more information should be free. And I think agree with that. But I'm not entirely convinced it applies to everything Assange is responsible for releasin…

Does this qualify as some sort of variation of Godwin's law?

Keeping war crimes classified until everyone responsible is dead is not the same as keeping plans secret during a war.

Hard to mix those two up to the point I'd say it was done in bad faith.

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He is a legend and should inspire future whistleblowers. Both his leaks and trials exposed how corrupt the justice system is.

> should inspire future whistleblowers I'd think his treatment might dissuade future whistle blowers.

Well, it would be depressing if we have to rely on The Shadow Brokers-style "whistleblowers" in the future.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with you and I'm a bit surprised that more people don't see the difference between what Manning and Snowden did and what Assange was up to (including apparently Snowden himself). At the time, I was initially a person who thought that what Wikileaks was doing was a net good for the rule of law, but changed my mind when I learned about the selective nature of what they publish. The fact that they were playing p…

If we consider other forms of journalism, it seems quite normal that a newspaper or TV station offers a specific political perspective, the news it publishes being selectively curated by its editor. Perhaps the issue is not that Assange had an editorial slant, but that his publication stood alone; we had no whistleblower's equivalent of CNN or the New York Times to consult for contrast as Wikileaks began playing the…

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