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Napster sparked a file-sharing revolution 25 years ago

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Re: Napster sparked a file-sharing revolution 25 years ago

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so it's the year 2000, right. you got home from school, you're at 6th grade. saw your sweetheart and got fired up all day. summer's around the corner, it's been a pretty good day. a friend at school told you about napster, you download it and install it. you are amazed. you login to icq and wait for her to come online. in the meanwhile you search for some metallica and limp bizkit. it's insane! everything you search…

poetry

Re: Napster sparked a file-sharing revolution 25 years ago

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

First, when someone uses "many" and "most", it indicates they are avoiding "a black and white view," by acknowledging there are some exceptions. As to the main point, no individual has the right to take someone else's intellectual property (such as songs, movies, books, etc that were often created by large teams of people over months or years) and, without asking any permission, "liberate" that content so that it can…

Copyright impedes accessibility, an important human right. The “pirates” sometimes “liberate” content that has no hope of being released due to a snarl of copyright and artificial regional restrictions. For example: audio description. Audio description is an accessibility technology that allows people who are blind or low vision to watch films, essentially by providing an extra soundtrack with a narrator concisely pr…

> So, sitting here in a cow-paddock in rural Western Australia, I still have no legal way to watch the audio described version of an oscar-winning film over 40 years old.

Put a note up in the nearest local store, invite someone from the foodbank around and swap a meal for them describing what happens as you watch the film together.

FWiW I'm also currently living in wheatbelt W.Australia, my father (born 1935) makes a habit of helping out older people (Meals on Wheels, book reading, etc) in the local area that are struggling ..

You might have more legal options than you realise.

Re: Napster sparked a file-sharing revolution 25 years ago

#273

For the younger folks: Napster arose when CDs and radio were the dominant official commercial distribution platforms for music. CD ripping into MP3s and portable music players drove the need to share them, and the internet was new, but needed a more scalable way to exchange them. Back in the day, it was mostly IRC channels, but these were slow and cumbersome. So Napster, Gnutella, and Hotline took off. These graduall…

I miss Hotline so much. Glad The Agency is still around.

Re: Napster sparked a file-sharing revolution 25 years ago

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Everything is free now That's what they say Everything I ever done Gonna give it away Someone hit the big score They figured it out That we're gonna do it anyway Even if it doesn't pay Everything Is Free Song by Gillian Welch

Just heard this song for the first time like a month ago, thanks for the reminder!

Re: Napster sparked a file-sharing revolution 25 years ago

#275

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Copyright impedes accessibility, an important human right. The “pirates” sometimes “liberate” content that has no hope of being released due to a snarl of copyright and artificial regional restrictions. For example: audio description. Audio description is an accessibility technology that allows people who are blind or low vision to watch films, essentially by providing an extra soundtrack with a narrator concisely pr…

> So, sitting here in a cow-paddock in rural Western Australia, I still have no legal way to watch the audio described version of an oscar-winning film over 40 years old. Put a note up in the nearest local store, invite someone from the foodbank around and swap a meal for them describing what happens as you watch the film together. FWiW I'm also currently living in wheatbelt W.Australia, my father (born 1935) makes a…

Hail and well-met!

(Where I am the community is not so great. If you need a casserole, they're in your corner. If you supported gay marriage, and if prefer to do indigenous patch burning instead of let it turn into a wildfire so you can be a hero, then you're about as welcome as a blowfly).

Anyway I'm not vision impaired, I just enjoy audio described films while I'm doing chores or commuting.

Audio description is very much an art, and while some do resort to ad hoc description from friends, it's often clumsy and not immersive. Producing the real thing is highly asymmetric to the film run-time. It takes about 2 hours to properly describe about 20 minutes of a film, depending on the overal genre.

The blind community face an even greater hurdle. I've heard so many stories of blind people signing up to a streaming platform to watch a film, only for the audio description not be avaiable on that platform for that film. Because streaming platform X doesn't have the rights to the AD produced by streaming platform Y. It also leads to a great deal of redundancy as multiple services create entirely distinct AD tracks for the same film. It's crazy!

Piracy is the only way some of these movies and television shows can be enjoyed by some people, and often those people are of limited means.

It's raining here. Hope you get some. :-)

Re: Napster sparked a file-sharing revolution 25 years ago

#276

Earlier quoted context omitted.

First, when someone uses "many" and "most", it indicates they are avoiding "a black and white view," by acknowledging there are some exceptions. As to the main point, no individual has the right to take someone else's intellectual property (such as songs, movies, books, etc that were often created by large teams of people over months or years) and, without asking any permission, "liberate" that content so that it can…

Copyright impedes accessibility, an important human right. The “pirates” sometimes “liberate” content that has no hope of being released due to a snarl of copyright and artificial regional restrictions. For example: audio description. Audio description is an accessibility technology that allows people who are blind or low vision to watch films, essentially by providing an extra soundtrack with a narrator concisely pr…

Stange presumption on your part... groups, companies, associations, teams, cooperatives, guilds, whatever... they are collections of individuals and no, they don't have any right to piracy. That includes anyone working on or involved in AI, so if it is unclear to you, I absolutely do not support OpenAI, Midjourney, Claude, ChatGPT or any other AI technology to "learn" or "train" off of others' works without their permission.

Re: Napster sparked a file-sharing revolution 25 years ago

#278

I rarely see it mentioned when discussing old file sharing programs, but I thought DC++ was the best. With the right hubs you could find anything you wanted, you could download parts of a file from multiple peers, you could browse a user's shared files to find new stuff, we had a server in our university network that RIAA/MPAA could find, there was a chat for each server, etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC%2B%2B

Before YouTube (and Google video..remember that?), Super Smash Bros Melee players shared matches and combo videos on a DC++ hub. It was THE place to find footage of people pushing the game to its (then) limits.

Another DC++ use that persisted well beyond streaming and torrents was Dtella, the file-sharing network on Purdue dormitory intranet.

Re: Napster sparked a file-sharing revolution 25 years ago

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Back around in World of Warcraft around 2009ish, there was a rogue named Napster that someone invited to the guild I was in as a casual/friend. I never found out if he was actually the founder for real but I always wanted to add "geared up the founder of Napster in Sunwell" to my resume somehow.

to Vanilla WoW. DnT were rockstars. 2009 was after the drama, and the migration to the Horde side, right?

I stopped playing around that time (it was distracting me from RL stuff, as well as removing some of the elements that made it such a great distraction), but the first five or so years of that game are really special memories.

Re: Napster sparked a file-sharing revolution 25 years ago

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so it's the year 2000, right. you got home from school, you're at 6th grade. saw your sweetheart and got fired up all day. summer's around the corner, it's been a pretty good day. a friend at school told you about napster, you download it and install it. you are amazed. you login to icq and wait for her to come online. in the meanwhile you search for some metallica and limp bizkit. it's insane! everything you search…

Limp bizkit dragon ball z music videos were one of my fondest memories from this period, I think peaking during the Kazaa era.
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