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Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera

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Post by zamadatix »

NikxDa wrote: post #267
rlt wrote: post #265

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a rather cynical take. Halide has been around for 7 years and they haven't gone to subscriptions.

Halide is 2.99 a month, or 12.49 a year, and has been a subscription model since 2020. Sure, you have a one-time purchase option, but it is $70. I believe people who bought before the subscription got one year free, but things like widgets aren't supported. So unfortunately, that is likely the same fate for Kino. This post introduces the subscriptions: https://medium.com/halide/introducing-halide-mkii-30f9f2bcea...

I'm fine if I can get a reasonable number of years out of it. I'm not expecting infinite updates forever for $9.99. 1-2y for this would be disappointing but not even a bad deal. On Halide it seems the problem is more "pricing in general" - a 1 year subscription costs more than the one time purchase in this app so naturally expecting get and keep the app plus years of updates is a bit eyewatering for a camera app (but not necessarily because of the pricing model/that it switches major versions in long cycles).

Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera

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Post by zamadatix »

ungamedplayer wrote: post #259
sandofsky wrote: post #43

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Sorry you ran into that. I distinctly remember testing the 13 mini, due to notch layout issues, so this is unexpected. As soon as the crash reports come in, we’ll dig into that. Unfortunately, while we had a QA person on this, and nearly 100 beta testers, the iPhone camera APIs are a mine field. We’ll get a fix out as soon as we have details.

I heard that the iPhone landscape was not fragmented though.

Definitely fragmented, even within the same generation and software version there are clearly meaningful hardware differences, but more like "dry mud" cracked apart than "grand canyon" cracked apart in comparison to other options. Still something you have to deal with though, no getting around that.

Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera

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Post by yard2010 »

aidenn0 wrote: post #222
KennyBlanken wrote: post #165

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I paid for Halide and almost immediately afterward, they announced a policy of locking new features made after whatever version you had bought unless you bought it a second time. It's the only app I've ever bought whose developer has done that bullshit. I won't make that mistake again.

That's how literally every application I ever purchased prior to 2008 worked...

Can you please give an example please as I never heard of this bs in my whole life

Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera

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Post by yard2010 »

qingcharles wrote: post #213
voltaireodactyl wrote: post #191

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FWIW, I truly hope 24fps never goes away entirely. Something about it is the key to making movie stars look like legends and regular people look like a stars, imo.

Yeah, agree on 24fps, and I don't think poster above you meant to remove 24, just those annoying NTSC/PAL rates that are close to integers, but aren't and are stupid as hell in an all-digital 2024.

NTSC and PAL used as actual region locks back in the ps1-2 days.

Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera

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Post by petercooper »

Gotta love Apple's App Store. Search for "kino" and get a competing app as an ad, but then numerous other apps that aren't Kino including a variety of keno games. Search for "kino pro video camera", same situation, but finally find it in position #5 despite being an exact title match. Bravo App Store search team. (The same happened when Threads launched.)

Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera

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Post by petargyurov »

petercooper wrote: post #276

Gotta love Apple's App Store. Search for "kino" and get a competing app as an ad, but then numerous other apps that aren't Kino including a variety of keno games. Search for "kino pro video camera", same situation, but finally find it in position #5 despite being an exact title match. Bravo App Store search team. (The same happened when Threads launched.)

Same thing happens on Android. Even for recognised apps/brands, the top search result is an ad for a competitor.

Just this morning I searched for "Strava" and the top result was some random hiking app.

Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera

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Post by infinitedata »

sandofsky wrote: post #43
z5h wrote: post #26

As a long time amateur photographer (using physical cameras and lenses), I have Halide (by the same company) on my iOS home screen for when I need to take a real phono on my iPhone. I use it all the time without issue. And would recommend it to any photographer. So I paid for Kino without hesitation. Just fired it up, set BNW grade, pressed record, and it immediately crashed. Tried again and it crashed again. Tried A…

Sorry you ran into that. I distinctly remember testing the 13 mini, due to notch layout issues, so this is unexpected. As soon as the crash reports come in, we’ll dig into that. Unfortunately, while we had a QA person on this, and nearly 100 beta testers, the iPhone camera APIs are a mine field. We’ll get a fix out as soon as we have details.

This looks really promising, hope all goes great! My only concern is reading that you do collect crash reports despite being privacy-focused. How much information is there to identify the picture/video taken or the device/person?

Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera

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Post by lauriswtf »

petercooper wrote: post #276

Gotta love Apple's App Store. Search for "kino" and get a competing app as an ad, but then numerous other apps that aren't Kino including a variety of keno games. Search for "kino pro video camera", same situation, but finally find it in position #5 despite being an exact title match. Bravo App Store search team. (The same happened when Threads launched.)

Well they just launched today so I'd assume that is the main reason behind low rankings. It will get up there soon.
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