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Re: Cloudflare took down our website

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Post by lofenfew »

aeyes wrote: post #108

From personal experience I know that 10TB per month is like 30k/year and SSL for SaaS is around 40k/year on the enterprise plan. No idea about pricing for having your own IP. I have no idea why Cloudflare would ask you to use these two features. SSL for SaaS is only useful if you want to add domains and certificates via API. I have had my fair share of negative experience with Cloudflare but this is next level bad. U…

> Unfortunately companies can chose who they want to do business with but it shouldn't be like this.

If you have a contract with them then they can't arbitrarily choose who they do business with. OP would presumably have a chance at a lawsuit against cloudflare here, the success of which would depend on how well cloudflare argued the ToS violation. A lawsuit might not be worth pursuing here, but this isn't a case of "it can't be helped".

Re: Cloudflare took down our website

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Post by EasyMark »

gioo wrote: post #252
Xeamek wrote: post #189

Can any1 explain how HN algo works that this post, which at time of writing has 355p, 180comments while being posted 1 hour ago, isn't even on first page (ranked 31)???

if you check sites that track HN's rankings, it was ranked #1 for a while, then it suddenly dropped to #27 and continued declining https://hnrankings.info/40481808/

thanks for sharing. I didn't even know this was a thing! Comparing to 4 or 5 others, this definitely looks more like a step function into obscurity unlike the other lol

Re: Cloudflare took down our website

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Post by Hikikomori »

CuriousCosmic wrote: post #261
Hikikomori wrote: post #247

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why can't they communicate than then? BYOIP also costs nothing to produce.

> Why can't they communicate than then? They did. Repeatedly. You see it mentioned in the few emails the OP chose to share. But they also didn't share the other communication they had over the month long discussion they had with cloudflare. > BYOIP also costs nothing to produce. That's not really accurate. Cloudflare is entirely built around one big unified anycast network. If you want to provision an entirely separa…

Big difference between:

>Here's the features you get with enterprise

And

>If you do not use byoip with your service you cannot be a customer, and also pay us $120k upfront while we do not tell you why, it's only a 40x price increase. You have 24h.

As a network engineer I'm well aware of what it costs to add prefixes to what you announce over bgp, some miniscule additional CPU overhead, likely unmeasurable. Even slow mips processors could process full table bgp.

Re: Cloudflare took down our website

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Post by eddd-ddde »

nocfforever wrote: post #126
jrochkind1 wrote: post #77

I have been hearing stories from developers/entrepeneurs about Cloudflare being very weird to deal with: "We'd like to talk to you about an enterprise plan." "No thanks, I'm fine with the free plan." "Based on your traffic, we'd like to talk to you about an enteprrise plan." "Is there a traffic limit on the free plan?" "No, there is no limit. But based on your traffic, we require you to get an enteprirse plan." [Give…

I thought about using CF in some of my deployments. After hearing about these sorts of "discussions" from other colleagues, I certainly talked about using their services. And then I realized that I had to hand them over my DNS? Uhh, no. It could have been "set nameserver to ours in your DNS console". And also there was the recent SSL spoofing they're doing even with DNS with no hosted websites. And they charge money…

You don't have to. In fact there are some TLDs that they don't even support.

You just need to configure the nameservers and that's it. That's how I do it for mine.

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Post by hengheng »

randunel wrote: post #265

This post was definitely demoted by HN. It stayed in the first position for less than 5 minutes and, as it quickly gathered upvotes, it jumped straight into 24th and quickly fell off the first page as it got 200 or so more points in less than an hour. I'm 80% confident HN tried to hide this link. It's the fastest downhill I've noticed on here, and I've been lurking and commenting for longer than 10 years.

Page 3 at #70 after four hours.

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Post by petercooper »

brigadier132 wrote: post #224
Xeamek wrote: post #189

Can any1 explain how HN algo works that this post, which at time of writing has 355p, 180comments while being posted 1 hour ago, isn't even on first page (ranked 31)???

My guess for why this would be flagged: its a gambling website so people are unsympathetic. Definitely an abuse of the flagging system.

Maybe HN needs a flagging ring detector as well as its voting ring detector.

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Post by dilawar »

randunel wrote: post #265

This post was definitely demoted by HN. It stayed in the first position for less than 5 minutes and, as it quickly gathered upvotes, it jumped straight into 24th and quickly fell off the first page as it got 200 or so more points in less than an hour. I'm 80% confident HN tried to hide this link. It's the fastest downhill I've noticed on here, and I've been lurking and commenting for longer than 10 years.

I had to search for it. I was under the impression that HN removed it for some reason.

Does HN has stake in cloudflare?!

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