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Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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post #75

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Personally I don’t trust much of anything sam says, so I’d take any framing with a large grain of salt

> a large grain of salt You mean a lump of salt? I've always wondered what the right word is to describe this amount of salt /!jk

I usually use "a few bags of salt" to imply that I don't trust the source.

Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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I’m not surprised with what happened with Sam Altmans ousting. He missed the king. I’m surprised he lasted this long.

Great, now I have that whistling stuck in my head again. Thanks for the reminder though, been a while since I've thought of The Wire :)

Oh, indeed.

Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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I wonder if he thinks LLMs are an AGI dead end and he's not interested in selling a product. There's some academic papers floating around coming to the same conclusion (no links. sorry, studying for a cert exam).

That's been my assumption since the beginning of this drama last year. He seems to have one goal: real AGI. He knows that while LLMs may make something that seems like AGI there's nothing actually intelligent about it and its never going to get them there. OpenAI wants to pivot and sell sell sell because all they see is potential trillions of dollars, and it's time to make money instead of burning more millions/billions chasing a dream.

Yet all the AI weirdos on Twitter seem convinced that Ilya "saw something" (AGI) and got scared and wanted to pull the plug...lmao.

Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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Sorry, which elephant?

That this was an employee who conspired against him in a failed palace coup

At the time, Sam was more powerful than Ilya for sure. But framing their relationship as employee/employer when they were both in the board seems not correct.

Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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post #24

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"Get next major feature to release and you can go as a friend" might have been part of an earlier agreement.

More like they iced him for the last 6 months to ensure he wasn’t taking their lead to a competitor. He probably hasn’t touched anything in that time.

I have to say I'm a bit surprised "gardening leave" is not more of a norm in tech like it is in investment banking or finance.

Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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Personality cult.

Elon Musk and Larry Page broke their friendship over Ilya's move from Google to OpenAI. There's more than just cult around a personality here, when two of the most powerful people in tech, who are also friends, go to war over you.

I don't believe it was that. I thought Elon most recently said it was Page calling Elon a "speciesist" when Elon cared that humans need to still exist, while Page is of the e/acc bit that AI's are our successors and the most competitive between them and us should go on.

Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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Altman's tweet ( https://x.com/sama/status/1790518031640347056?s=46 ) makes it seem as if he wanted to stay, and Ilya disagreed and "chose" to depart. Very interesting framing.

This was easily the most PR tweet of our generation.

The fact Ilya himself tweeted about it too was also easily the most PR tweet of our generation.

:D

Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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post #135

Ilya knows how ChatGPT works. Any company that hires him will be able to catch up with ChatGPT.

Catching up right now is not a matter of tech innovation, but raw energy and compute. Of course, the next -revolution- in AI could very well come from Ilya. But why would he bestow that honor to anyone? He can self fund it if he wants. It's an R&D project, not a scaling problem.

I feel like the lowest hanging fruit right now lies with the UI and already established techniques for reducing latency and making the experience smoother.

Just executing the client right would give someone a competitive advantage right now...

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