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AI-generated sad girl with piano performs the text of the MIT License

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Re: AI-generated sad girl with piano performs the text of the MIT License

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Post by tumult »

TheCapeGreek wrote: post #195
Max-q wrote: post #113

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When recorded music was invented, musicians protested. Recorded music was devoid of any vitality or soul. Recorded music still became a hit. Then we got the synthesizer. Again we got the same complaints, lifeless and without soul. The synthesizer still became a hit. Now the next step is happening, and we see the same complaints all over. Only time will show if the next step will happen anyway. My gut feeling tells me…

Agreed. Another side of it is that it will enable the creation of more music around more topics than before, by non-musicians. The accessibility bar is lower. For a lot of people, music is a way to express their emotions, and not just by creating/playing it, but by listening to it. Now, you'll be make your own hyper-specific music with lyrics around topics specific to you, without learning any of the underlying skill…

It will let you express yourself in precisely the same amount as giving those instructions to a person to create a song for you. Very little.

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Post by mrfinn »

raincole wrote: post #261
mrfinn wrote: post #35

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Sorry to disagree, we already crossed the line where the "Her" movie could turn into a real story. To say it more clearly: It won't take a long to see people even having affective relationships with AIs.

Having pets improves your mood and health. In a measurable way. So people already have "effective" relationships wit their pets. What's the difference between an effective relationship and an affective one?

Oh I'm not saying that having a relationship with an AI is a bad thing per se. I actually enjoy the discussions with the LLM models, even the small ones that I run locally, in a way superior rate than the conversations that I often have with human beings, and pretty sure I'm not the only one. I didn't create yet an "entity" with some kind of persistent memory which will turn into my personal daily assistant (my personal Jarvis) but that's definitively in my to do list.

Re: AI-generated sad girl with piano performs the text of the MIT License

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Post by JoeAltmaier »

corobo wrote: post #238
JoeAltmaier wrote: post #234

Lots of folks don't like the song, ok. But that's no real criticism. See, lots of folks do like songs done like this. Consider the thought experiment: If it was your buddy's sister doing this rendition, would the first thing to blurt out of your keyboard be, the comments in this section? Or would we have something considered and relevant to say? It's so easy to denigrate an AI, it's not a 'real person' so say any cri…

> If it was your buddy's sister doing this rendition No. She is sapient and has thoughts and feelings that need taking into account. I would be more likely to disregard minor negatives in favour of any positive words I could find. When AI is on the same level I personally will be more mindful of how my words affect its feelings, sure, until that time AI music will get honest reviews from me. So far I've seen a whole…

So that means, let me get this right, the real you is the one that likes to make cruel remarks and practice being hurtful any chance you get? Do I have it right?

I like to think I can be decent even when not required to, even when it won't come back to me.

Re: AI-generated sad girl with piano performs the text of the MIT License

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Post by immibis »

whstl wrote: post #233
fluentbyfire wrote: post #207

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Only on Hacker News could people find flaws with such an awesome idea and execution. Not all songs have hooks or refrains. Only the most formulaic ones.

I don't think it's fair to conflate "having structure" with "being formulaic". Even the most abstract art is not about splashing paint in a canvas and calling it a day. It's about doing something close to this, but creatively and within a specific framework. It takes much more skill to produce songs with hooks and refrains than to produce random music. But it takes even more skill to produce something that is creativ…

The second best art of this time will always remain "who's afraid of red, yellow and blue?" after it inspired such fear in someone that they sliced it up with a knife.

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Post by guardian5x »

navane wrote: post #178

These songs don't have any hooks. Melodies don't get repeated. They all just meander along. I think as they get better at making these great middle of the road songs, edgy music will reemerge. Whatever AI will be good at, will immediately devalue, in the realm of arts. Just how photography gave way to non-realistic art and how drum machines made sloppy drums (or ridiculous apex twins) hip. Then, the artifacts we see…

"mediocrity will be even more available" - so basically all the stuff that is in the top 100 charts will be more available

Re: AI-generated sad girl with piano performs the text of the MIT License

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Post by bsza »

Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #244

Just now generated two Lorem Ipsum songs performed by Gregorian choir, https://suno.com/song/bde0ccd9-ec7c-465b-a183-e4f8c8e92998 https://suno.com/song/f11b3e87-9035-4e73-b9af-f2e21ba94f3f ... and the second one was so decent that I was disappointed when it ended so soon. Should have pasted a longer text sample.

I feel obliged to point out that neither of those sound anything like a Gregorian chant (though still impressive for a model that is obviously not specialized in classical music).

Re: AI-generated sad girl with piano performs the text of the MIT License

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Post by avodonosov »

helboi4 wrote: post #258
avodonosov wrote: post #243

I tried rap version, sounds more interesting, IMHO https://suno.com/song/7dde1028-1df9-407c-80ea-59d39179a385

Lol sounds like tv shows/ads in the 00s trying to be cool by making their silly corporate stuff hiphop.

The rap style has an element of proclamation sometimes, that fits with the license text to some extent.

IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM!

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Post by immibis »

maxerickson wrote: post #245
weregiraffe wrote: post #23

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Art will realign to put more value on live performances. Don't worry, people who push AI art don't understand that art is a form of communication between humans. They might learn when the bubble pops and they are left with a trillion shiny "art" objects that are worth nothing, because nobody wants to look at them.

They are already worth very little if more than one party can produce them at the push of a button.

They made it illegal to produce exact replicas of Frozen at the push of a button; they could make AI illegal too. Except, the only reason it's illegal to copy Frozen is that it gives rich people less money. Generative AI gives rich people more money, so if anything, it'll be illegal not to use it.

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Post by corobo »

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #273
corobo wrote: post #238

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> If it was your buddy's sister doing this rendition No. She is sapient and has thoughts and feelings that need taking into account. I would be more likely to disregard minor negatives in favour of any positive words I could find. When AI is on the same level I personally will be more mindful of how my words affect its feelings, sure, until that time AI music will get honest reviews from me. So far I've seen a whole…

So that means, let me get this right, the real you is the one that likes to make cruel remarks and practice being hurtful any chance you get? Do I have it right? I like to think I can be decent even when not required to, even when it won't come back to me.

Internet rule: if a comment starts with "So" it's going to be the least charitable version of what you said, haha.

Nah. If I were reviewing something without having been given the instruction "please be truthful, I need to make this perfect" or similar, I would default to encouraging the skill rather than trying to help perfect the output. In doing so I would overlook minor issues that will iron out with experience across multiple works.

If the person was submitting the result to a competition or something and asked my opinion on that specific work, then my approach would be different. Not cruel and hurtful, course not, I'd just mention things that would otherwise be annoying and petty to bring up.

In the case of pre-sapient AI, it won't hurt (and may even be helpful to the relevant dev) to point out where it's tripping over into uncanny valley. There's no benefit to encouragement in this situation as it's not learning a skill, it is trying to replicate the output of one.

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