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Smoking cannabis is now legal in Germany

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Re: Smoking cannabis is now legal in Germany

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Post by chimeracoder »

AngryData wrote: post #268
chimeracoder wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This tiny detail makes the difference why employer-mandated drug tests are not a thing in Germany like it is in the US. It doesn't explain the difference, no, since the same is true about the US. In most states, consumption of most drugs is not a crime - possession, production, distribution, sale, and trafficking are the actual crimes prosecuted.

Unless you drive a car or own a gun in the US, then if you do get a bad drug test result you can easily get charged with a crime. It is not likely to get drug tested in relation to having a gun, but anywhere pushing DUI enforcement is going to be drug testing significant samples of random people and charging people who may have smoked long ago and had all side effects completely subsided but still charged with a DUI…

> Unless you drive a car or own a gun in the US, then if you do get a bad drug test result you can easily get charged with a crime.

The likelihood of getting charged with a drug-related crime for testing positive for drugs on an employer-mandated drug test, which is the context being discussed, is absolutely minuscule.

You may get fired, but your employer isn't going to refer you to local prosecution, and the prosecution wouldn't take it if they did.

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Post by 93po »

wellYeahbruh wrote: post #214
carschno wrote: post #182

While scanning the comments, I observe one recurring argument against the step of legalizing weed: (excessive) use can and will have catastrophic psychological consequences on some of the consumers. I totally agree. It is, however a flawed argument in the context of legalization. One of the arguments for the legalization by the health ministry is that prohibition has been ineffective, factually not avoiding or even r…

That and capitalism, airplanes, industrial messes cause cancer and more, cars, alcohol, guns, war, famine, poverty, all maim kill, ruin lives and we keep all these things we invented through history. But ooo man the moral panic over plants nature provides It all just screams fake moral outrage to keep people buying man-made vices

I'd say it's also important to keep in mind that much of the initial fear mongering around cannabis in the US was centered around racism

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Post by 93po »

antfarm wrote: post #119

About time. Weed and hash being illegal has put a large portion of my generation (German Gen Xer here) on the wrong side of the law and gave us an unnecessary deep distrust in law enforcement of any kind.

> unnecessary deep distrust in law enforcement of any kind.

it's definitely necessary, no one should talk to cops

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Post by Sammi »

93po wrote: post #275
antfarm wrote: post #119

About time. Weed and hash being illegal has put a large portion of my generation (German Gen Xer here) on the wrong side of the law and gave us an unnecessary deep distrust in law enforcement of any kind.

> unnecessary deep distrust in law enforcement of any kind. it's definitely necessary, no one should talk to cops

Talking to cops is not so dangerous in all countries. Many countries have cops that act reasonably. Are you from the US? I hear it can be dangerous to talk to cops there.

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Post by The_Colonel »

carschno wrote: post #182

While scanning the comments, I observe one recurring argument against the step of legalizing weed: (excessive) use can and will have catastrophic psychological consequences on some of the consumers. I totally agree. It is, however a flawed argument in the context of legalization. One of the arguments for the legalization by the health ministry is that prohibition has been ineffective, factually not avoiding or even r…

There's a middle ground between legalization and prohibition - consumption is legal / decriminalized, while sale is illegal. Some European countries follow this model for weed and other drugs.

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Post by The_Colonel »

93po wrote: post #275
antfarm wrote: post #119

About time. Weed and hash being illegal has put a large portion of my generation (German Gen Xer here) on the wrong side of the law and gave us an unnecessary deep distrust in law enforcement of any kind.

> unnecessary deep distrust in law enforcement of any kind. it's definitely necessary, no one should talk to cops

You're not going to call cops if your car gets stolen or you get robbed / assaulted / raped? What's the alternative?

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Post by malermeister »

GaryNumanVevo wrote: post #240
zug_zug wrote: post #212

Reading this thread there are clearly a lot of HN users who are fairly out-of-touch with weed. Which is totally fine, but in case you do decide at some point you want to try it here's what I'd throw out there for you: I think almost everybody can enjoy it, perhaps in the top 5% of safest drugs of all (cannot die from any amount, no interactions I know of, no hangover). I think it will replace alcohol as people learn…

It's getting harder to find very small dosage weed in places where it's legal. There's an arms race to produce the most potent weed because it can be sold to the top 10% of weed buyers.

The trick is to mix it with (already legal) high CBD/low THC weed, both to just dilute it, but also because CBD counteracts some of the negative side effects of THC, such as paranoia.
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