Dada, an experimental new programming language

Post by purist33 » Wed, Mar 06, 2024, 4:24 PM UTC

wredue wrote: post #201

couchand wrote: post #123

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Don't be so quick to discount DSLs. Sure, you don't want a half-baked DSL when some simple imperative code would do. But if you watch your API evolve into an algebra and then don't formalize it with a DSL you might be leaving powerful tools for understanding on the table. A poor-fitting language is terrible for abstract thinking, on the other hand an internally-consistent and domain appropriate language can unlock ne…

The problem a lot of people have with DSLs is… well, just look at a prime example: SAS. If you’re an experienced programmer coming in to SAS, your vocabulary for the next LONG time is going to consist primarily of “What The Fuck is this shit?!?”

Post by timeon » Wed, Mar 06, 2024, 4:30 PM UTC

rob74 wrote: post #176

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Non-native-speaker take: I don't care, it just reads a bit "weird" as I learned English before and "theirs" was plural... but I am adaptable. As long as the meaning of the quote isn't changed I couldn't care less and it seems very important to some people. What I personally dislike though is the whole "Ask me my pronouns" thing... like "No, I don't care about your gender or sex, as long as I am not interested in a ro…

The "singular they" has been a thing in English for a long time (since the 14th century according to Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they ). I'm a non-native speaker as well, and wasn't taught about it in school either (maybe that has changed in the meantime?). The first time I consciously noticed it is probably in the Sting song If You Love Somebody Set Them Free ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If…

Post by sanderjd » Wed, Mar 06, 2024, 4:31 PM UTC

kant2002 wrote: post #190

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In college, my programming languages class used a language called "Mystery" (I believe created by my professor), which was configurable . Assignments would be like "write some test programs to figure out whether the language is configured to use pass-by-value or pass-by-reference". And there were a bunch of other knobs that could be turned, and in each case, the idea was that we could figure out the knob's setting by…

Is this Mistery this Mistery [1]? [1] https://blog.brownplt.org/2018/07/05/mystery-languages.html

Post by mihaic » Wed, Mar 06, 2024, 4:32 PM UTC

ordu wrote: post #222

mihaic wrote: post #166

I've written a bit of Rust, and I was left with mixed feelings, that seem to be still the same here: - loved the memory safety patterns when compared to the horrible things that you can do with C++ - found almost every thing where it was different to have a harder to parse syntax, that I could never get used to. The implicit return at the end of a statement for instance make it harder for me to visually parse what's…

> I know it sounds nitpicky, but to me all keywords should be obviously pronounceable, so something like "func" instead of "fn" would be mandatory. Keywords only? How about function names like strspn or sbrk? And how do you feel about assembly language, using mnemonics like fsqrt or pcmpeqd? BTW, thinking about it, I notice, that I need all these lexemes to be pronounceable too, and I have my ways to pronounce sbrk o…

Post by timeon » Wed, Mar 06, 2024, 4:34 PM UTC

sorenjan wrote: post #138

Changing a quote to change "his" to "theirs" seem like a very Rust community thing to do. > Updated to use modern pronouns. https://dada-lang.org/docs/about/