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Re: Vice website is shutting down

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Post by jahsome »

cududa wrote: post #238
arsome wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think YouTube is the counter argument to this - long form content from passionate people has taken off pretty good there. Perhaps it's just me, but it seriously makes the rest of social media look like an absolute trashfire by comparison.

But I don’t like video or podcasts. My brain doesn’t learn that way. I like reading

It doesn't really compete will well-edited prose, but transcripts are available on youtube and actually often pretty good, despite being auto-generated.

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Post by DrBazza »

arsome wrote: post #183
jacurtis wrote: post #180

Its sad that Vice feels like they can only gain value from social media and YouTube. I feel like the best part of the internet is dying (good written detailed content), but the worst part of it is surviving and thriving: social media (short lived, low quality, clickbaity, dopamine chasing content).

I think YouTube is the counter argument to this - long form content from passionate people has taken off pretty good there. Perhaps it's just me, but it seriously makes the rest of social media look like an absolute trashfire by comparison.

I typically watch YouTube content once, but I'll likely revisit a webpage many times. But I suppose YouTube returns more potential ad revenue despite lower visits.

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Post by blauditore »

Scoundreller wrote: post #32
nextaccountic wrote: post #21

It makes no sense to not let the site online in an archived form, for the posterity It wouldn't even be a significant cost and ads would recoup it anyway There should be a way to donate a website to the Internet Archive so that they run an online archive on it, basically keeping the site frozen forever (rather than relying on the Wayback Machine which has worse UX)

> It wouldn't even be a significant cost and ads would recoup it anyway I 100% don't get it when websites with lots of content and good SEO just delete everything. Fatwallet (fuck you Rakuten). Yahoo Answers (hey, I didn't say good content). Even on my own Drupal blogs that I didn't want to maintain/update anymore, I did a giant curl job, recursively regex'd out the login/comment submission fields and dumped them on…

> And I'm someone that would take 9 attempts to do FizzBuzz

Hehe

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Post by [deleted] »

jacurtis wrote: post #180

Its sad that Vice feels like they can only gain value from social media and YouTube. I feel like the best part of the internet is dying (good written detailed content), but the worst part of it is surviving and thriving: social media (short lived, low quality, clickbaity, dopamine chasing content).

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Post by onion2k »

nextaccountic wrote: post #21

It makes no sense to not let the site online in an archived form, for the posterity It wouldn't even be a significant cost and ads would recoup it anyway There should be a way to donate a website to the Internet Archive so that they run an online archive on it, basically keeping the site frozen forever (rather than relying on the Wayback Machine which has worse UX)

It wouldn't even be a significant cost and ads would recoup it anyway

You'd need a corp to deal with the money, people to handle things like takedown requests and expired copyrights, maybe some IT functions to keep things up when suppliers change stuff. It wouldn't be that straightforward.

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Post by flexagoon »

ewalk153 wrote: post #85
naet wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did some work for a design agency that got bought by Twitter.... we basically converted all their different sites to full static and put them on ice. It would have been expensive to keep hosting how they had been, but with everything flattened to static it's super cheap to keep up (although no publishing new stuff without some by hand work or restoring the old servers). All the good articles and design samples stay…

Could the internet archive offer this as a paid service? For a reasonable fee, we'll archive your site, and give you back a copy of the assets you can turnkey host on the original domain for cheap with a static hosting solution (s3, cloudflare, etc). Everybody wins

They seem to offer something like that:

https://www.archive-it.org/

However, the footer of that website says 2014 and the about page is broken, so not sure if it's still supported.

Also, Cloudflare has a partnership with Web Archive and they offer something similar, but I think it's only made for temporary outages and only archives the most popular pages on your site

Re: Vice website is shutting down

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Post by hnbad »

chaosbolt wrote: post #265
GypsyKing716 wrote: post #99

Nobody really cares about Vice, because of the politic that just didn't make sense anymore. They stopped making good content like a decade ago.

-In mid-August 2013, Rupert Murdoch's 21st Century Fox invested US$70 million in Vice Media, resulting in a 5% stake. -In August 2014, A&E Networks, a television group jointly owned by The Walt Disney Company and Hearst Corporation, made a US$250-million investment in Vice Media for an ownership stake of 10%. -In November and December 2015, Disney made two additional individual investments of US$200 million totalling…

Propaganda for what?
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