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Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by planb »

alphabetting wrote: post #83

Gemini Ultra seems better on logic than GPT4. Still messing around testing but here's a prompt Ultra nailed but GPT4 completely botched: Tabitha likes cookies but not cake. She likes mutton but not lamb, and she likes okra but not squash. Following the same rule, will she like cherries or pears https://i.imgur.com/KW6gQbc.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/OSHSvLp.png

Please anyone correct me if I'm wrong: LLMs cannot solve this kind of riddle. This has nothing to do with their capabilities for logical reasoning, but with the way words are represented as tokens. While they might know that "apples" has two syllables because that is mentioned somewhere in their training data, if you make up a fruit "bratush" a human will see that as two syllables, but this might be 1 to 7 tokens to a LLM without any information about the word itself.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by benstein »

The different prompting strategies needed to improve results for different models is fascinating. I usually tell ChatGPT the role it should play to get better results e.g. "You are an expert in distributed systems". The same approach with Gemini returned "as a large language model constantly learning, I wouldn't call myself an expert."

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by apapapa »

dobladov wrote: post #119

I would be willing to pay for an AI that it's not constantly worrying about my safety and ethics, it's very frustrating that even when I ask for tech related topics, Gemini it's holding information on the basis of actions that might cause harm to my devices.

Self-hosted uncensored would be even better.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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benstein wrote: post #272

The different prompting strategies needed to improve results for different models is fascinating. I usually tell ChatGPT the role it should play to get better results e.g. "You are an expert in distributed systems". The same approach with Gemini returned "as a large language model constantly learning, I wouldn't call myself an expert."

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Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by throwaway918274 »

sradman wrote: post #266
throwaway918274 wrote: post #213

can't even use it in Canada lol Google says it's because of "regulatory uncertainty", but I can use GPT just fine...Is it because OpenAI doesn't care and thinks they can navigate any "regulatory uncertainty" because they have Microsoft backing them? Wouldn't Google also have the same kind of resources?

Gemini works in Canada as of today. Bard was not available in Canada anytime I tried it previously. Maybe the "regulatory uncertainty" was recently resolved [1]. [1] https://g.co/gemini/share/9bde4caabf2c

oh wow ok, now I feel silly thank you

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by apapapa »

crazygringo wrote: post #265
translucyd wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My God, this page is straight from the 90s! Nostalgic.

I'm actually shocked it has the modern Google logo, because everything else about it is a straight-up time capsule -- you're right!

On google.com, the logo for me is all white... Not sure if it's white history month or something

Edit: no it's black history month... Kinda strange

https://i.ibb.co/wRk36Tq/Screenshot-20240208-080725.png

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by freediver »

This is an impressive product, well done Google. There is a PM in there somewhere who knows what they are doing, kudos to you.

Prediction: they get to 6-7 digit number of paying customers, decide it is peanuts for them (~$20M/mo) and instead decide to push the free version with ads with full force as the future of search.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by devit »

Has anyone successfully bypassed the region lock? What does it check exactly?

Does it need a US credit card? A US IP address? A Google account with a US phone? A Google account created from a US IP address? Some other way of tying the Google account to a country?

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by empath-nirvana »

LightMachine wrote: post #210
alphabetting wrote: post #83

Gemini Ultra seems better on logic than GPT4. Still messing around testing but here's a prompt Ultra nailed but GPT4 completely botched: Tabitha likes cookies but not cake. She likes mutton but not lamb, and she likes okra but not squash. Following the same rule, will she like cherries or pears https://i.imgur.com/KW6gQbc.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/OSHSvLp.png

If we want to test these beasts in logic, we should probably start using actual formalized logic, rather than English. In just one test, Gemini flopped hard, while GPT-4-Turbo nailed it. Here is my prompt: Below is a well-typed CoC function: foo : ∀(P: Nat -> *) ∀(s: ∀{n} -> ∀(x: (P n)) -> (P (n + 1))) ∀(z: (P 0)) (P 3) = λP λs λz (s (s (s z))) Below is an incomplete CoC function: foo : ∀(P: Nat -> *) ∀(f: ∀{n} -> ∀(…

Such a weird test. 99.9% of humans wouldn't even understand the question, let alone be able to formulate a coherent answer for it.
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