Toyota to invest $1.3B in Kentucky factory to build battery packs and new EV

Post by jonnycomputer » Thu, Feb 08, 2024, 1:32 PM UTC

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You can find the growth charts here: https://home.treasury.gov/news/featured-stories/unpacking-th... but these charts/analysis come from the White House so they are going to be a bit biased (how much is proposed vs real, etc). I don't really see the value in debating the details of the policies as it's pretty clear Trump made rebuilding industry his #1 message, which was later co-opted by Biden in the 2nd election. T…

Those charts seem to indicate a spike after the CHIPS act was passed, rather than when it was proposed by the two bipartisan US senators in 2019. > I don't really see the value in debating the details of the policies > Trump made rebuilding industry his #1 message Not debating policy. I don't see the evidence that Trump is linked to the CHIPS act. While that might be his message (as you claim), the evidence of him do…

Post by riku_iki » Thu, Feb 08, 2024, 3:19 PM UTC

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I can't find any mentions of hybrids nor plugins in actual executive order: https://www.gov.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/9.23.20-EO... it just says: zero emission, and hybrids are obviously not

that is the exact same language used for the canadian law. "zero emission" includes hybrid https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/resources/documents/cars-and-light-tr...

Post by rootusrootus » Thu, Feb 08, 2024, 4:07 PM UTC

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> I dont quite understand why the sales of EVs in the US is considered to have flattened out according to some statistics. Politics. Some people want it to be true, so they conflate an easing of the growth rate as an actual rate reduction. It could also be innocent ignorance of statistics. The real hang up with EVs right now is primarily price. They're just reaching the point where TCO is a wash. Historically, most p…

> But for those who can access sub-10 cent per kWh pricing I think you need a blend of solar for that https://www.energybot.com/electricity-rates/ The cheapest in the country is $0.1122/kWh in Utah. The average is $0.17/kWh

Post by ericmay » Thu, Feb 08, 2024, 4:27 PM UTC

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I don't really follow what you're trying to say with your last sentence and I'd be skeptical of a claim that Chinese workers are 30% more efficient, but Toyota, Honda, Nissan, and others have maintained US manufacturing facilities for decades and seem to be doing just fine with any potential culture conflicts. The 30% number you cite could be true but perhaps in order for Chinese (or any other country) manufacturing…

> claim that Chinese workers are 30% more efficient I was just quoting what the documentary said. There was so much contention between the management and the workers in the American glass factory featured in the documentary. In the end, the management hosted a competition between the American workers and the Chinese workers. Chinese workers won with a big margin.

Post by suoduandao3 » Thu, Feb 08, 2024, 4:58 PM UTC

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I do believe that Tesla's success in the last decade was in large part due to the fact it was the only technology company that could use all the money people were throwing at technology companies.

Ummmm you might want to compare debt of VW, Toyota and Tesla