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Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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post #149

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He answers this on the website: "...There’s no API keys, or limits to how many times a day you can call it..."

Have you never had an issue while using an embedded video on a website ? Whether a message "it cannot be played, go to YouTube", or trying to select a high-resolution, or subtitles and failing ?

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Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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Would you mind explaining your position a little more? Are you saying that walled gardens keep evil away, or are you saying that they can hurt the user?

Walled gardens keep attention-span-harvesting profits on the inside.

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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> Does it block ads? It doesn’t, I don’t think Google would like that, but if you have YouTube Premium you won’t see ads, just like the website. I just realised that a new product means new eco system, means less/no customization possibilities. What a wonderful world...

"Google layoffs x percent of its employees". HN: Fckin Google! "Here is an option to support a platform you use without watching ads". HN: Go fck yourself!

Right, won't someone please think of the poor little underpaid corporate behemoth.

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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Why is that? Obviously they don’t want a third party app to be that experience, but they make native apps for everything else. Also, Christian can’t help himself but attach his apps to large companies that can cut him off overnight. Haha.

>Why is that? Operating system fatigue, supporting three native apps as well as apples own browser engine is a lot of engineering time. End of the day Vision Pro needs YouTube more than YouTube needs it.

On the other hand, I have to imagine that to some extent YouTube is making maintaining their apps across multiple platforms harder than it has to be.

The app is almost entirely made up of tableviews/collection views/recycler views, save for the video player… really not rocket science. If YouTube’s public API were more capable I’m positive that third party devs would have no issue maintaining their YouTube apps across N platforms simply because they wouldn’t be overcomplicating them like Google is theirs.

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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post #257

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Do you think Google pays their employees directly from Youtube ad revenue?

What do you think Google pays their employees with?

As little a share of it as they can get away with, in other words market rate wages

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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post #225

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In general I would agree but charging $10 for something that can be shut down tomorrow just because google doesn't like it seems a bit much.

He admits it uses the official embed API, doesn't block or skip ads and generally plays nice with their systems. He's not trying to circumvent anything, he's just filling a gap left by Google themselves. It would be quite the precedent for Google to shut someone down who is technically playing by all their rules. (Yes I'm sure the ToS allows them to do this if they want to - but it would be a bad look).

Lots of apps block YouTube ads by default. Including Brave

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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post #95

If you're into self-hosting there is https://github.com/iv-org/invidious which works great with https://github.com/yattee/yattee for macOS/iOS/tvOS. This combo is amazing, haven't looked back ever since I deployed it with docker. Hopefully Yattee will make a native visionOS app in the future.

Also in this realm, for Roku there is https://github.com/iBicha/playlet which works great when hooked up to my self-hosted Invidious instance.

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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post #228

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Again, as a user, why is this our problem? Let's all stop picking sides when trillion dollar companies fight each other at the expense of an open inter-operable Internet.

If you want an open internet don’t use the app and just use the website that works. Good grief

I think you missed my point there, but yes I agree with you on that.

Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro

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post #95

If you're into self-hosting there is https://github.com/iv-org/invidious which works great with https://github.com/yattee/yattee for macOS/iOS/tvOS. This combo is amazing, haven't looked back ever since I deployed it with docker. Hopefully Yattee will make a native visionOS app in the future.

Does this system provide the same level of content recommendations as the Youtube homepage? If so then I'll set it up tonight!

Part of the appeal for these privacy front-ends is the zero tracking, so you don't get the hyper-aware recommendations of normal YouTube. I'd say if that's a major selling point to you, you probably wouldn't enjoy Invidious.

Though, I'd recommend people try self curating a list of subscriptions and discover new videos a more organic way (friends making recommendations, or seeing videos on HN or Reddit). I personally have found my YouTube experience to be less distracting when I started using Invidious.

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