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Re: Why is everything so ugly?

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World War 3 has been going on since 2010. We are currently in one of history's times of great turbulence. (Most people lived through the fall of the Roman Empire and didn't even notice it.)

Why 2010 exactly?

Start of the "Arab Spring" and the clusterfuck that led to the dissolution of all international law.

Re: Why is everything so ugly?

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Most of these aesthetic criticism people are just conservative people. They don't like change. The world was best when they arrived somewhere. That's pretty much it. SF is full of a similar kind.

Are you sure? Many more people admire Taj Mahal or Ancient Greek/Roman buildings than, say, brutalist architecture. Heck, even Art Deco, while distinctly modern, seems to be likeable. I am fairly conservative myself, but I like some new Czech buildings, such as the Masaryčka project by Zaha Hadid. It has a soaring soul that is hard to describe, but nevertheless you can feel the positive vibe of the structure when you…

Yellow street lamps are not Taj mahal

Re: Why is everything so ugly?

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22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.

From The Original Complete List Of The 45 Declared Goals.

Re: Why is everything so ugly?

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I just wanted to echo the gray frustration here. I went to buy vinyl flooring (I can't afford hardwood) and the sheer amount of inexplicably "grey wood" planks was staggering. Why! Like, it's as if some alien only saw wood in an episode of I Love Lucy and wanted to replicate it.

Maybe not a in a typical house, but I can see a minimalist architecture with white walls, cement pillars, grey wood floors, and a single tree branch sculpture.

Re: Why is everything so ugly?

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Sounds hilarious. Where's that?

Minneapolis Suburbs. There’s been a huge apartment building boom, and cities with leftover small town vibes have passed these ordinances.

Can you drop a street-view link?

I sometimes quite like what others claim is hideous in these discussions, mainly because it's a refreshing change from my own local architectural group-think. There is a fair bit of regionality in the "cardboard" being pumped out.

I expect future generations will create taxonomies and venerate it and laugh at all the naysayers here as has happened so often before! We are too close to it and not subjected to the next horror yet. We will miss overground houses with windows as we climb into our underground pods and plug-in.

Re: Why is everything so ugly?

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Yes, but isn't it cyberpunk as fuck ? Welcome to living out your wildest nightmares.

cyberpunk is not ugly though.

Movie cyberpunk makes the ugly pretty and the sordid exciting, upping the saturation until the fluorescents become psychedelic.

The cyberpunk we are living has no such aesthetic filters. An adventure is something terrible that happens to someone else.

Re: Why is everything so ugly?

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What's stupid, that there are many more unattractive people in advertisements today that ten years ago? You may disagree if you want but I don't see how that observation is "stupid". No idea what incel vibes means...

> No idea what incel vibes means... "incel" is short for "involuntary celibate"; people who the other sex doesn't find attractive / can't get laid. Originally it was self-applied by people who wanted to figure out what was wrong with themselves, but turned into an insult years ago.

> people who the other sex doesn't find attractive / can't get laid.

Homosexuals can't be incels?

Re: Why is everything so ugly?

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Most of these aesthetic criticism people are just conservative people. They don't like change. The world was best when they arrived somewhere. That's pretty much it. SF is full of a similar kind.

Are you sure? Many more people admire Taj Mahal or Ancient Greek/Roman buildings than, say, brutalist architecture. Heck, even Art Deco, while distinctly modern, seems to be likeable. I am fairly conservative myself, but I like some new Czech buildings, such as the Masaryčka project by Zaha Hadid. It has a soaring soul that is hard to describe, but nevertheless you can feel the positive vibe of the structure when you…

> hand, Le Corbusier architecture (mostly older than me, so I should have been used to it) looks like deliberate insult to anything human: look at this concrete prison I made for you and weep and gnash your teeth because there is no escape from its rotting ugliness, you worm.

This is how I feel about the watergate, in which I work.

Re: Why is everything so ugly?

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As an Xer who grew up with all these old technologies and saw the transitions to modern stuff, I fully agree. It's odd how Millennials are so interested in obsolete and obviously inferior technologies like LPs and Polaroid photos. There's very, very few cases I can think of where an older technology really was better in a significant way. Mechanical keyboards like the IBM Model M (or better yet, the Model F, though t…

I theorize that it comes down to: newer stuff is better, but as a society we’ve somehow made everything trend towards being super impersonal, and thus the next gen is searching for that feeling.

This is is for me. I don't put on a record when I want to work out or drive in the car or hear some ear worm, but I do when I want to create a comfortable, relaxing environment. The lower (than FLAC through nice headphones) fidelity, the soft hum of the turn table, the physical act of choosing and placing a record on a turn table that hasn't changed since it was built 50+ years ago... It's a mechanical thing that requires care and maintenance (though not too much of either), and that brings me joy.

It's a stark contrast to mousing/thumbing around on a bright screen.

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