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Re: Tell HN: Bash.org is no more

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post #108

One of my all time favorite sites on the interenet, I am glad there is an archive version. IRC and being ASCII only had their benefits. These days, Discord displacing IRC, for most people who even have PCs, there is a much different vibe of re-posting meme pics and gifs, or even youtube videos. Yet, I don't know if this is because of the higher production requirements, or not, but there isn't a database of spontaneou…

Ironically, many of the "respectable" discord servers (i.e. revolving around hobbies people under the age of 18 aren't/can't get into) seem to not allow cross-server emojis (which mostly stops all usage of them and discourages gif-memeing as well). Combined with "compact" mode in user settings, I find myself having a vaguely IRC-like experience in the servers worth participating in. Terrible shame how many of us have…

The reasoning behind the banning of cross-server emojis in most "respectable" servers is that you can split an image into a 5x5 grid of "emoji" and post images in channels you're not supposed to. It's a mess.

Re: Tell HN: Bash.org is no more

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I'm sure most people here on HN already know about the famous hunter2 meme, but it turns out that it is quite hard to find and link to the original transcript, especially since it appears the original website (bash.org) is no longer active. This URL contains the sha2-256 digest of the transcript itself, so that it can be preserved indefinitely for posterity. static.space is a website I built to allow creating this ki…

Great! Now I just need to memorise the sha2-256 digest of my favourite memes

Re: Tell HN: Bash.org is no more

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post #235
post #178

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neither of those things use IRC. unless you're just referring to channel-based instant messaging.

the original "protocol not commercialized" sentiment in the OP is a bit odd. nobody commercialized HTTP per se (okay, you could make an argument for SaaS CDN proxies, but i don't think that was the spirit of the original argument), they commercialized things you could deliver using it. the channel-based real time chat model is what mattered, not the intricate details of how the underlying bits are delivered functiona…

The particular point about protocols is that IRC is dead-simple to implement. It's all ASCII/UTF-8, CRLF-delimited messages of space-separated tokens. You can get a working implementation with the stdlib of most languages in about 200 lines. The protocol hasn't really changed much over the years.

Contrast with HTTP and other related web technologies, whose specifications are so complex that only the largest tech firms can even dream of building their own implementations, let alone achieving full standards compliance. Moreover, those standards are also often driven by those same corporate interests who own significant usage share in the browser space.

To the extent that corporate interests will advocate for standards in their own self-interest (recent example: Google WEI), I would say that the protocol has been commercialized.

Re: Tell HN: Bash.org is no more

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Are you saying censorship is fine because people can just use other words? There really is no point engaging with you then.

You call it censorship, I call it freedom of association. These are private organizations deciding what they allow on their own platforms. But more importantly the “kind of humor” your originally highlighted is absolutely alive, as evidenced by your own point that people use words to get around whatever censorship there is of the most extreme versions of that humor.

The older I get the less useful I think this distinction between "official" and "unofficial" is. "Officially" King Charles can dissolve the UK parliament, but "unofficially" he can't. Power is power and we know it when we see it.

So yes I would call being banned or having your language limited by major global platforms "censorship", despite the fact that officially they're just private organisations.

Re: Tell HN: Bash.org is no more

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I once resolved a similar situation by having the PC speaker play the simpsons theme song.

Ah the fond days of being able to identify a machine remotely by ejecting its CD-ROM drive.

You mean the cup holder?

Re: Tell HN: Bash.org is no more

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post #27

Oh man, that is so sad to hear. bash.org has given me endless laughs. It always cheered me up. Its too bad the the top 100/200 hadn't changed in years. I guess that's because IRC has been mostly dead for a while now (no more new submission) and that the voting algorithm favored a self-feeding feedback loop. Nonetheless, it was fun to come back once every few years and re-read the top quotes. Hopefully someone revives…

> I guess that's because IRC has been mostly dead for a while now

False

Re: Tell HN: Bash.org is no more

#278

Contacted their/Stablepoint's support bot: Today What happened to bash.org? Hello there! YR I will be happy to assist you but it appears that the support PIN you entered might be incorrect. Can you double-check, please? Yordan R. I haven’t entered any support PIN Can you please provide me with it as I need to verify the account? YR You should be able to see your verification number by going to the client area —> Supp…

> let them know it’s not working and the internet is upset with them?

That part seems like a dick move, to me personally. That implies that the site operator did something bad.

Re: Tell HN: Bash.org is no more

#279
post #170

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Sorry, I don't get it!

"Turn that frown upside down" is a way of saying - don't be sad, be happy. Instead of having the corners of your mouth point down (frown), have them point up (smile). The joke is that if you move the eyes to the other side of the mouth, it remains a frown. Expectation :( becomes :) Subversion :( becomes ):

It's a very American expression. In British culture a frown refers to a forehead expression, not a mouth expression.

Re: Tell HN: Bash.org is no more

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post #125

What a shame. IRC is one of the few protocols left of the early Internet that hasn't been aggressively commercialized and colonized by corporate interests, and this is just another nail in the coffin. Often times I wonder why basically _everything_ must be on the Web, and if all that historical baggage and complexity is really necessary, or even worth it at all.

I was able to have literally months of logs from a dozen servers streamed to a single app running with 1/256th the memory I have in the laptop I'm writing on, and it was both more responsive and had more features. And you didn't need to deal with anyone's custom emoticons or gif spam. That is a serious loss from my perspective. Hell, just today I was trying to figure out how to use native emoji in Discord. Turns out,…

We need to take a serious step back as a society to declutter our digital lives. It’s why I want beeper to succeed so badly. It’s become atrociously difficult to just transmit text, it never needed to become this bloated of an experience.
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