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Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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Post by hmottestad »

sholladay wrote: post #233

I want ChatGPT for Family. The free version gets a lot of use around here but the most powerful feature is the ability to search the web, which is only available to paid users. I pay $20/month for myself and I’d happily pay a bit more for the whole family, but not $20/month per person - it adds up. Family members end up asking to borrow my phone a lot to use it. Give me a 3-4 person plan that costs $30-$40/month. You…

I haven't found the web search feature particularly useful or helpful. Far too many sites are blocking the ChatGPT bot. I also find that ChatGPT isn't getting any better search results that I would if I searched for something myself. Quality of the results varies a lot too, and ChatGPT doesn't really seem to be able to distinguish between high quality content and not so high quality content.

For software development I find that Phind is pretty good at combining search results with GPT-4 in a way that increases the quality of the result.

Maybe OpenAI can convince the Bing team to index everything using their embeddings. If ChatGPT could also read the text directly from Bind instead of having to "surf the web" it would be able to consume several search results at the same time. In the future I could even see Bing et al. running an LLM over all text when indexing a page to extract info and stats like a summary, keywords, truthfulness, usefulness, etc.

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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Post by siva7 »

coldtea wrote: post #213
kolinko wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He speaks very unclearly, instead of saying GPT-4-turbo he says 4.5 preview. 4.5 is invention of his. Also mixtral medium - no idea of what he means by that. Not to mention a claim that mixtral is as good as gpt-4. It’s on the quality of gpt3.5 at best, which is still amazing for an open source model, but a year behind openai

Sorry, but there's little that's unclear about what he said. "mixtral medium" is just a typo: he means mistral-medium. And GPT 4.5 is certainly not an "invention of his". Whether it exists or not (which is debatable, OpenAI said it was just mentioned in a GPT 4 hallutination and caught on), it' s a version name thrown around for like a month in forums, blog posts, news articles and such.

Being thrown around in forums doesn't make it more true..

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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Post by a_petrov »

benreesman wrote: post #243
vincentrolfs wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I asked ChatGPT to rewrite the original post using your glossary, which worked well: I've set up my system to use several AI models: the open-source Mixtral-8x7, Dolphin (an uncensored version of Mixtral), GPT-3.5 Turbo (a cost-effective option from OpenAI), and the latest GPT-4 Turbo from OpenAI. I can easily compare their performances in Emacs. Lately, I've noticed that GPT-4 Turbo is starting to outperform Mixtral…

The GP did a great job summarizing the original post and defining a lot of cryptic jargon that I didn't anticipate would generate so much conversation, and I'd wager did it without a blind LLM shot (though these days even that is possible). I endorse that summary without reservation. And the above is substantially what I said, and undoubtedly would find a better reception with a larger audience. I'm troubled though,…

I used to struggle a lot in communication for talking to people in the authentic self way you just described. Being too direct and telling my point of view in such a way has caused tension with family, colleagues and the girlfriend.

The moment I change the way I talk and say instead of "That's bullshit, let's move away from it" to "That could be a challenging and rewarding experience", and I can already see the advantage.

I rather like to talk the way I want, but I see it as challenging and not that rewarding as people seem to get more sensitive. That made me wonder if the way GPT-style chatbots communicate with humans would make humans expect the same way of communication from other humans.

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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Post by outside415 »

lwhi wrote: post #197
shrx wrote: post #142

Could a moderator change the "Teams" in the title to lowercase (as it is in the article)? Capitalizing Teams misleadingly implies it's regarding Microsoft's chat platform.

I disagree. We shouldn't assume a basic sentence capitalised word refers to a product. If a reference to a product is intended, we should clarify that association some other way; i.e. MS Teams.

I thought it was referring to MS teams initially too.

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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Post by ddano »

robertlagrant wrote: post #244
cameronh90 wrote: post #227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe in the AI Twittersphere it started with sama, but it’s been becoming common in Gen Z culture for a few years now. If you look up popular bands at the moment, you’ll find a decent chunk of them only use lowercase in their band and song names.

It's been around a while[0]. [0] https://albumartexchange.com/coverart/gallery/ra/radiohead_t...

Yeah, but not in this context. Now it is being used with the anti-AI movement

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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Post by throwup238 »

hmottestad wrote: post #263
shrx wrote: post #142

Could a moderator change the "Teams" in the title to lowercase (as it is in the article)? Capitalizing Teams misleadingly implies it's regarding Microsoft's chat platform.

I also assumed that this was ChatGPT for MS Teams. The title that the webpage uses is "ChatGPT for teams" and I believe that HN tries to use the titles from the linked page verbatim.

HN autocapitalizes titles based on a standard English guideline (Chicago probably).

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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Post by megablast »

benreesman wrote: post #66

I’ve got my stuff rigged to hit mixtral-8x7, and dolphin locally, and 3.5-turbo, and the 4-series preview all with easy comparison in emacs and stuff, and in fairness the 4.5-preview is starting to show some edge on 8x7 that had been a toss-up even two weeks ago. I’m still on the mistral-medium waiting list. Until I realized Perplexity will give you a decent amount of Mistral Medium for free through their partnership…

What a non sensical statement

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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Post by pama »

benreesman wrote: post #66

I’ve got my stuff rigged to hit mixtral-8x7, and dolphin locally, and 3.5-turbo, and the 4-series preview all with easy comparison in emacs and stuff, and in fairness the 4.5-preview is starting to show some edge on 8x7 that had been a toss-up even two weeks ago. I’m still on the mistral-medium waiting list. Until I realized Perplexity will give you a decent amount of Mistral Medium for free through their partnership…

Thanks for the insights. What is your typical Emacs workflow for using and comparing the models?

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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Post by yreg »

siva7 wrote: post #272
coldtea wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, but there's little that's unclear about what he said. "mixtral medium" is just a typo: he means mistral-medium. And GPT 4.5 is certainly not an "invention of his". Whether it exists or not (which is debatable, OpenAI said it was just mentioned in a GPT 4 hallutination and caught on), it' s a version name thrown around for like a month in forums, blog posts, news articles and such.

Being thrown around in forums doesn't make it more true..

But it makes it not an invention of benreesman

Re: ChatGPT for Teams

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Post by wruza »

eurekin wrote: post #220
wruza wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just spoke all night to 8x7B and can say that it sucks much less than 3.5. It doesn’t screw up and apologize all the time (and screw up again) and doesn’t repeat what I just said verbatim. That is on topics I have a decent expertise in myself. Never had this experience of periodically forgetting that it’s not a human company with 3.5.

How are you accessing it?

Local setup, “text generation webui”, TheBloke/Mixtral-8x7B-Instruct-v0.1-GGUF (Q4_K_M) on HF. You can run it on a decent intel cpu, takes around 32.5GB of ram including os (8gb for me). GPU with tensorcores can speed up few layers if you have one, but isn’t required. I get around 2.5-3 t/s with 8700 and 4070ti, that’s enough for chats that require some thinking.

Edit: I was using 2k window, a larger one would probably eat more ram. But even with 2k it didn’t feel like it loses context or something.

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