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Wait wait wait, they advertise the iPhone as waterproof but still void the warranty and won’t fix it if their waterproofing fails? We lost the headphone jack for this?
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Real question / No trolling: I feel like I am the last living human who still uses the headphone jack. When I walk around my city, I see almost zero other people using it. They using wireless earbuds. I avoid wireless earbuds to avoid yet-another-battery-to-be-charged. Is this true for other HNers also?
I switched to Bluetooth earbuds way back in 2007 when they were still novel (Sony Ericsson HBH-DS980 represent - with an LCD screen for switching between paired devices!). When I use wired headphones they get caught on door handles etc and have a lifespan of like 6 months before they get torn apart. I still use wired (with a dongle) for calls, since Bluetooth Headset profile sounds like crap and I have enough trouble…
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I don't know, the first sentence says: > Apple’s limited warranty doesn’t cover damage caused by liquids, even for water-resistant products like the iPhone, Apple Watch, and some AirPods models. But the article is kind of all over the place. It then says Macs can now detect water in USB-C ports while having pictures in the article of iPhones showing messages that they detected liquids. They like to make the point tha…
The iPhone is full of water detector stickers inside and they do reject warranty claims if water got in. They say you must have done something you shouldn't have if that happens, like diving deep or something. They will even refuse to install a new battery if you pay them.
On a phone with triggered water detector stickers? Yeah. Common sense. Why the hell would I work a device that might be damaged already? If something goes wrong after the repair due to the pre-existing damage it becomes a finger pointing game. Fuck that
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So it's a software visible GFCI circuit. Not super interesting, though sure, if the chip does it the OS should probably listen. The spin in the article about how this is all because of warranty denial revenue is pretty weird though.
Really nitpicky, but not really a GFCI. The USB connector is detecting a short circuit--a direct connection between the two pins--and cutting power while the condition is present. If you wanted to put this in terms of household electrical, this would be closest to a self-resetting breaker. (And actually, most devices you have already _have_ this. There's usually a self-resetting fuse/PTC thermistor protecting your US…
I wonder how reliable this will be. Back in the summer, my mom plugged her iPhone in to charge, and it gave a warning saying that it couldn't charge because there was liquid in the charging port. However, the port was bone-dry, and there was no liquid anywhere near the phone. It turned out that the charger didn't like the extension cord that it was plugged into. I took the extension cord away, and the phone started c…
I'm incredibly leery of this functionality being used to deny warranty claims as a result.
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How it works (on page 52): "The TPS25751 supports liquid detection by measuring the voltage level across the SBU pins of the Type-C connector. When a short occurs across the SBU pins to another Type-C pin(s), the TPS25751 takes action to protect the the Type-C port by disabling the power paths and notifies the embedded controller when applicable. Once liquid has been detected, the TPS25751 continuously monitors the S…
Dumb question: wouldn't non-conductive liquids be harmless? i.e., the USB port can in theory work even if it is immersed in some non-conductive liquid, no?
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The iPhone is full of water detector stickers inside and they do reject warranty claims if water got in. They say you must have done something you shouldn't have if that happens, like diving deep or something. They will even refuse to install a new battery if you pay them.
Apple recently quoted me 2,300$ to fix just one broken keyboard key (it was M, if you were wondering), because according to them the water sensors were tripped and it's policy to replace the mtherboard if that happens. Which apparently costs more than buying another two working identical MacBook Pros. The laptop has never gotten wet, and everything apart from the M key was working perfectly.
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That doesn't say "Apple considers the warranty void if water ends up in the USB port", that says "Apple's warranty doesn't cover water damage". EDIT: to be clear, the warranty can absolutely be a factor! Depending on your situation, having a phone with a warranty (or maybe insurance) which covers water damage could be a good idea! It's just not as simple "water detected in USB port -> warranty void", and this "preven…
They claim it's water damage no matter the issue as soon as the indicators are triggered, though.
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And Sony Xperias still come with headphone jacks today[1] after they tried Apple'ing for a couple models and got laughed at. [1]: https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/mobile-phones-table...
Real question / No trolling: I feel like I am the last living human who still uses the headphone jack. When I walk around my city, I see almost zero other people using it. They using wireless earbuds. I avoid wireless earbuds to avoid yet-another-battery-to-be-charged. Is this true for other HNers also?
I used to, but I realised that my mid-40s ears are now the limiting factor, so I might as well have the convenience of wireless.
The real problem isn't 'another device to charge' though, it's battery degradation and the wasteful, disposable nature of Airpods.
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My Iphone 12 recently spent a full night in a gutter during a rainstorm, water rushing over it. It was completely fine, didn't even seem to bother the hotspot. Wonder how my warranty's doing.
I keep trying to conjure stories for how this happened. My favorite is that you were lying passed out in a gutter all night with water rushing over you. And the phone. But you only mentioned the phone. lol. How is your warranty doing? ;-)
I did something similar many years ago with a Motorola razr phone. I was digging trenches for an irrigation system. I checked for my phone a day later and had no idea where it went. My best guess is that it fell out of my pocket and into the trench, which was subsequently covered up.
I joke that one day a more advanced civilization will dig up this ancient artifact, wonder what its purpose could have been, and make up some fantastical story after the fact as to why it ended up in that shallow trench.