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Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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This is why people buy iPhone. Unless you drop it from a speeding car, it won't cause any issues for 4-5 years at least.

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Nope. I was android user for 13 years. Just bored of switching between multiple android phones and bought iPhone. Not that I particularly like it, but I appreciate some effort on Apple’s part for privacy and security.

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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I owned a fairphone 3. It was expensive but very easy to take apart and promised years of updates. Then it broke, after about 18 months. Fine, I thought, I'm glad I got a repairable phone. I'll just fix it, it'll be easy. I determined the problem was with the main logic board and found that a) a new one would cost much more than an entirely new, and more capable phone and b) it was out of stock. I just bought a new p…

I had a similar experience with replaceable batteries (1) expensive on the one hand, but at the same time (2) unavailable.

I think batteries are the main consumable of a phone. It seems to me there should be an after-market of smaller batteries, and a set of universal power adapters (like you get with power supplies), and shims to fit it securely within the phone.

But I haven't seen this, so either people prefer to upgrade (demand) or manufacturers successfully made it too hard (supply).

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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not the other guy, but... any advice how to find a decent usb-c to audio jack dongle? i've ordered a cheap one and it's absolutely unusable, horrible sound quality and constant noticeable static. not feeling like gambling on another one.

Safe to assume you're in the US? In EU, or another country with reasonable return policy, I'd buy such a dongle in an electronics shops, try it on the spot and refund if it's non comformant.

I have no idea what this comment means because this is exactly how it works in the US as well.

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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One of dozens of parts is out of stock and as the other comment points out itself it is also the part that makes the least sense to replace.

I was looking into Fairphone seriously recently and got repulsed by this parts out of stock thing. It's not just one occurrence, peolle are complaining about different parts out of stock for prolonged period or times (or still not available to this day). What's the point of repairability if parts cannot be acquired? Not much of used market, either. And their support tells you to pretty much f-off without are purchase…

The only way this model would work is if specs are completely open, there is optional certification/audit for parts and third parties are encouraged to freely compete selling the parts.

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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I was looking into Fairphone seriously recently and got repulsed by this parts out of stock thing. It's not just one occurrence, peolle are complaining about different parts out of stock for prolonged period or times (or still not available to this day). What's the point of repairability if parts cannot be acquired? Not much of used market, either. And their support tells you to pretty much f-off without are purchase…

The only way this model would work is if specs are completely open, there is optional certification/audit for parts and third parties are encouraged to freely compete selling the parts.

Like in a PC?

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Did see an interesting thing recently about mist showers. You run them hotter than a normal shower, but they also use significantly less water, and therefore energy. That's always something to consider.

But the lower amount of water flowing will make it harder to remove soap suds from the hair, leading to longer shower times unless you like dandruff :) for me that's the longest part of showering.

Shave your head, easy-peasy.

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Having access to donor parts from cheap used models?

Unless they are not popular that much, then not much access either.

As much as apple (seemingly) tries to actively make repairs harder, they're some of the easiest devices to source replacement parts for, due to their popularity.

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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1. Many USB-C jack adapters are poor quality. 2. USB-C adapters are one extra thing to carry around and easy to lose or forget, unless you just never unplug it, which is cumbersome 3. Many people who were born before the year 2005 (me included) have wired headphones that they prefer and have used for years that still work fine and have the sound quality and comfort that fit our needs. 4. Outside of the smart phone wo…

1. buy a good adapter 2. connect it to the end of your headphones and leave it there 3. do the above 4. buy a good adapter 5. don't use bluetooth and buy an adapter e: I was a little flippant. Point being: Time has marched on, TVs don't have RCA jacks either. You are an enthusiast and that's fine, I am too, but everyone else has moved on to bluetooth and wifi-enabled speakers and TVs. I'm happy to simply have the opt…

1. waste money on good adapter when jack worked fine

2. connect it to the end of my headphones and leave it there

3. remove it so I can connect same headphones to laptop

4. lose adapter

repeat

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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1. buy a good adapter 2. connect it to the end of your headphones and leave it there 3. do the above 4. buy a good adapter 5. don't use bluetooth and buy an adapter e: I was a little flippant. Point being: Time has marched on, TVs don't have RCA jacks either. You are an enthusiast and that's fine, I am too, but everyone else has moved on to bluetooth and wifi-enabled speakers and TVs. I'm happy to simply have the opt…

1. waste money on good adapter when jack worked fine 2. connect it to the end of my headphones and leave it there 3. remove it so I can connect same headphones to laptop 4. lose adapter repeat

It doesn't work anymore because no one cares about audio jacks on their devices, so no manufacturer puts them in. Apple may have started it, but every other manufacturer eventually followed as not enough people complained.

Doesn't your laptop have USB ports?

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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I owned a fairphone 3. It was expensive but very easy to take apart and promised years of updates. Then it broke, after about 18 months. Fine, I thought, I'm glad I got a repairable phone. I'll just fix it, it'll be easy. I determined the problem was with the main logic board and found that a) a new one would cost much more than an entirely new, and more capable phone and b) it was out of stock. I just bought a new p…

Given Fairphone is a rather small company they sometimes have such problems of economy of scale - no manufacturer will prioritise you if you make small orders.

That said, one reason for the Fairphone price is the "fair to the people labouring for the parts of the phone" part. I'm unhappy with the camera quality, but honestly knowing that the premium I pay means fairer working conditions is for me an important element. I prefer to pay the small social enterprise establishing a new kind of supply chain and developing a modular phone, rather than the Samsung CEOs and stockholders.

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