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Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Post by carlosjobim »

autoexec wrote: post #142
carlosjobim wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the current YT Premium model is more fair, creators get paid more the more you watch them. I'm glad it works like this instead of pandering to donations. Anywhere I've looked, I've seen the donations model been a complete failure. Usually I am the only person or one of less than 10 that donates to an OSS project with thousands and thousands of users. People just don't donate to things that are important and u…

> I think the current YT Premium model is more fair I don't think it is entirely fair to invent problems for people and then demand payment from them to stop getting in their way. That said, I don't object to Google providing people with the option of giving their money to Google either, I just don't think they need the strong arm tactics. > Likewise with YouTube, nobody will donate to well-made instructional videos…

> There are countless examples to prove you wrong.

I think there are many more examples proving me right. In my estimate, about 1 in 750 to 1 in 1000 subscribers will donate to a video creator. That's "nobody". If you look at your favourite channels and compare numbers of subscribers with numbers of Patreon sponsors, I think you will see similar numbers.

It's not only YouTube, it's almost everything on the internet. Then people here complain about diminishing quality of the stuff online... Well, people who make that stuff need to eat. If they can't support themselves with producing quality content, they will do something else and that content will not be made. It will not exist. At least YouTube is a way that enables a lot of high quality content to exist. I know hackers think that these creators should go to hell if they don't accept to create their stuff for free, but I side with the creator in this one.

For me, I look forward to the day when YouTube is completely behind a paywall, so that penny pinchers are left to wallow in the filth to save their precious dollars.

This is also why unhealthy slop food is sold everywhere. Most people will happily destroy their own health and keep buying the cheapest crap so they can pinch their precious penny, instead of spending a little more on quality.

But what I've always wondered is what people want to do with that penny that they've pinched for so long?

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Post by acdha »

Moldoteck wrote: post #208
kmlx wrote: post #30

what i’m reading from these comments: we will do anything, including leaving youtube, but for sure we will not be either watching ads or paying for content.

i pay for premium. But funny thing, this will not disable the tracking, so I still use the ublock. I've also had problems when visiting my parents in another country and background play was blocked bc yt premium was not available there, even if i was a paying customer. At that time I was using yt in firefox mobile with background play. I also still get sponsored ads and need to use the sponsorblock extension, that do…

uBlock does not prevent tracking. The only way to keep Google from tracking you is to stop connecting to Google’s servers.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Post by lxgr »

DeathArrow wrote: post #244
jacquesm wrote: post #234

What is most interesting about this whole adblocking war: we're winning. If we weren't youtube/Google wouldn't be making such a fuss. So keep it up. I can also heartily recommend the 'unhook' browser extension, it takes care of all of those upsells and feeds.

>What is most interesting about this whole adblocking war: we're winning. Until Google changes how the web works and all other browsers will align. And they can do that, since they almost own the web trough Chrome.

There’s no need at all to rely on Chrome: If Google wanted to, they could enable DRM for all videos on Youtube today. Almost every desktop and mobile browser supports it.

They’d lose a couple of legacy client apps, but much less traffic than they would if they were to make it Chrome-only.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Post by irrational »

CubsFan1060 wrote: post #259
jacquesm wrote: post #234

What is most interesting about this whole adblocking war: we're winning. If we weren't youtube/Google wouldn't be making such a fuss. So keep it up. I can also heartily recommend the 'unhook' browser extension, it takes care of all of those upsells and feeds.

What does winning mean in this context? If we take this to an extreme, doesn't content just not get made? Do you think Google is going to go to a model where things are freely accessible without ads? Feels like even when a company provides a way to get rid of ads, many people still won't pay. They _say_ they will, but I find often people will want to substitute their own terms (Well, youtube premium is $x, but I thin…

This reminds me of a business colleague of mine who truly does not understand why anyone would write software and then release it for free. There are many people willing to do that, and many people willing to create content on YouTube for free. We aren’t all driven by the almighty dollar.

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CubsFan1060 wrote: post #259
jacquesm wrote: post #234

What is most interesting about this whole adblocking war: we're winning. If we weren't youtube/Google wouldn't be making such a fuss. So keep it up. I can also heartily recommend the 'unhook' browser extension, it takes care of all of those upsells and feeds.

What does winning mean in this context? If we take this to an extreme, doesn't content just not get made? Do you think Google is going to go to a model where things are freely accessible without ads? Feels like even when a company provides a way to get rid of ads, many people still won't pay. They _say_ they will, but I find often people will want to substitute their own terms (Well, youtube premium is $x, but I thin…

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Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Post by paulryanrogers »

kmlx wrote: post #189
paulryanrogers wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Paid services that still show ads? Cable, Netflix, Hulu, Disney+, Amazon Prime Video, etc.

i never got any ads on netflix, disney+, prime video or youtube premium.

Then you're paying at a higher tier.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Post by paulryanrogers »

acdha wrote: post #267
Brian_K_White wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Incorrect.

Surely you could provide at least some details? Have you personally seen ads on those services, for example?

I have seen ads on those services when paying for their cheapest paid tier.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Post by dageshi »

beeboobaa wrote: post #268
CubsFan1060 wrote: post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does winning mean in this context? If we take this to an extreme, doesn't content just not get made? Do you think Google is going to go to a model where things are freely accessible without ads? Feels like even when a company provides a way to get rid of ads, many people still won't pay. They _say_ they will, but I find often people will want to substitute their own terms (Well, youtube premium is $x, but I thin…

Because those companies are just taking the piss. They are like an abusive boyfriend that wants to know what you're up to all the time. They pretend you can pay them off so they won't have to stalk you, but the prices they ask are greatly exaggerated and exist solely to try and fool regulators. But if you're happy to pay whatever is asked of you, that'll be a 100 dollars thanks

Youtube premium is £12.99 / month or £19.99/month for a family plan.

That really doesn't seem unreasonable to me.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Post by jacquesm »

dageshi wrote: post #278
beeboobaa wrote: post #268

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because those companies are just taking the piss. They are like an abusive boyfriend that wants to know what you're up to all the time. They pretend you can pay them off so they won't have to stalk you, but the prices they ask are greatly exaggerated and exist solely to try and fool regulators. But if you're happy to pay whatever is asked of you, that'll be a 100 dollars thanks

Youtube premium is £12.99 / month or £19.99/month for a family plan. That really doesn't seem unreasonable to me.

To know whether that is unreasonable or not you'd have to compare it to the cost of providing you that service, taking into account that youtube is just a delivery mechanism and so is infrastructure, not content.

And what is or is not affordable is really dependent on where you live and that kind of money is a very large amount in some places. And especially in those places access to youtube for educational purposes can be quite important.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Post by dageshi »

simiones wrote: post #264
CubsFan1060 wrote: post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does winning mean in this context? If we take this to an extreme, doesn't content just not get made? Do you think Google is going to go to a model where things are freely accessible without ads? Feels like even when a company provides a way to get rid of ads, many people still won't pay. They _say_ they will, but I find often people will want to substitute their own terms (Well, youtube premium is $x, but I thin…

> They _say_ they will, but I find often people will want to substitute their own terms (Well, youtube premium is $x, but I think it's only worth $y, so I'm going to just block ads completely). That just means, by definition, that the prices YouTube are trying to charge are too high, doesn't it? What we're seeing is basically a negotiation tactic: you either reduce the price, or we'll keep using ad blockers. Not to m…

In this circumstance there isn't a price those people would be willing to pay.

They simply want the service for free, refuse to pay but are unwilling to come out and say as much, so they use host of justifications to avoid it.

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