Is this what has been making Firefox crash when I load videos lately?
YouTube slows down video load times when using Firefox
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User agents are useful. However they tend to be abused much more often than effectively used 1. They are useful for working around bugs. You can match the user agent to work around the bugs on known-buggy browser versions. Ideally this would be a handful of specific matches (like Firefox versions 12-14). You can't do feature detection for many bugs because they may only trigger in very specific situations. Ideally th…
Only option 1 is something that users, who are the people who decide what user-agent to send, might care about. And as you yourself point out, it doesn't happen.
I'm pretty sure that users care that websites can fix bugs affecting their browser. In fact option 1 is very difficult to actually implement when you can't figure out which browser is having problems in the first place.
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Google stopped testing stuff in Firefox, that is all they did afaik. We all should know how many bugs and "oppsies" you get when you don't test before releasing new features. Test code snippets being pushed to prod etc. Engineers tend to create paper trails on what they work on, code reviews and bug logs etc are everywhere, so I doubt there is any of those where they say "Make things shit for Firefox to hurt our comp…
Firefox has a small userbase partly because of the early "oopses" described in the article I linked. Those happened a while ago, when Firefox had more users than Chrome.
Chrome was bigger than Firefox by 2012, the accusations that Google intentionally made things worse for Firefox came many years after that.
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#274I would need to see a Firefox UA warm cache reload in the same video before I put any stock in this. This aligns to perfectly with the “But Google evil” narrative for me to believe it uncritically. Alas, I don’t trust the internet anymore.
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#275Wait, so this is about the delay loading, but not why FF mobile has really poor frameretes at the start of most (non-ad) videos?
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#276This seems like a pretty clear-cut antitrust case. The EU Commission better go after it.
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#277YouTube company should be split into two. One for client, one for infrastructure. And they should ban them from your exclusive deals with each other.
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Why is it only trying to detect ads when the user agent is Firefox? https://old.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/17zdpkl/this_behav...
Probably because there are other methods for Chrome that don't apply to Firefox. Like when I noticed that some sites did some URL rewriting trickery on Firefox and others browsers, but not for Chrome. The trick is to show you the proper URL the link points to, but as you click, it is substituted for one that is a redirection, for tracking purposes (ex: " https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http:://actualsite ..."). On Chr…
Wow, that is pretty disgusting behavior.
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#279Why are people upvoting a submission without a proper link? Really shows that people are always just commenting on the headline and not the content.
It has been changed now but it was the wrong link (https://old.reddit.com/r/youtube/login/) for 3 hours with 900 upvotes.
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Is there maybe some road map or purpose statement on this? it’s not that i don’t believe that this is absolutely true (i’m sure it’s the wet dream of all SV companies…) but google’s offerings are so inconsistent that if that’s really their goal i just can’t see how they mean to get there. every answer to competition is a half baked answer in my experience and i truly just can’t see how google means to do this. google…
Oh yes, it's called WEI as in Web Environment Integrity - https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/25/google_web_environmen... some of its code landed in production Chrome, leading to an outcry. V3 Manifest and WEI are all part of Google's push to make Chrome mandatory to be able to use their services.
No, WEI has already been abandoned and removed again.