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Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Anyone else find it strange that startup founders of the magnitude of Sam & Greg would join a gigantic corporation as employees? It sounds very out of line of what you'd expect.

I think Sam's goal is to create AGI, same as most of the other founders of OpenAI. If he just wanted money and power, he probably would have continued with YC or some other startup instead of joining the nonprofit and unproven OpenAI at the time. His opinion on the ideal path differs from Ilya's, but I'm guessing his goal remains the same. AGI is the most important thing to work on, and startups and corporations are…

>I think Sam's goal is to create AGI

Supposedly his goal was the same as OpenAi --> AGI that benefits society instead of shareholders.

Seems like a hard mission to accomplish within Microsoft.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Why are people so excited about Sam and Greg joining Microsoft? The only value Sam brought to OpenAI was connections and being able to bring funding. But that's not something Microsoft needs, so what value does Sam give them?

> The only value Sam brought to OpenAI was connections and being able to bring funding

OpenAI was last week a $100b company.

You need to do more than just "build an AI model" for that to happen.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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I'm guessing this is the end of OpenAI. People aren't going to want to work at OpenAI anymore due to the value destruction that just occurred. It's going to be hard for them to raise money now because of the bad rep they have now. It going to be hard for them to hire top talent. You have two leaders, top engineers and researchers leaving the company. Google and Facebook come in a grab up any top talent that still the…

The flip side perspective is people will love focusing on doing it right, without being rushed to market for moat building and max profit.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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MS is betting the company on AI. It is everywhere across the org. They won't play with kiddie glove. You want to see ruthless businessmen in action sure pick up the fight. They'll be happy to lose 10 billion plus some more if it means they win the war.

> MS is betting the company on AI.

This doesn't mean anything when they have multiple non-AI revenue streams generating billions.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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This might be good for society. If there are multiple entities that develop such AI technology, there's some kind of competition and a distribution of power.

Of course I'd prefer if everyone could just train such a model on their smartphone with a public dataset and an open source software. At least in terms of compute, companies will always be ahead.

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