Yay, more third world pressure to bring ios down to android's level. What's next? My iphone coming preinstalled with whatsapp with 5 norton antivirus refund rooms already prejoined?
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Apple announces that RCS support is coming to iPhone next year
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Re: Apple announces that RCS support is coming to iPhone next year
#272Is there E2EE in the actual RCS specification? Can there be, given that telcos are usually subject to lawful intercept laws? AIUI, what Google/Android does is have their own extension, with the Content-Type of the message being "application/vnd.google.rcs.encrypted": * https://www.gstatic.com/messages/papers/messages_e2ee.pdf This is kind of like, with (E)SMTP/IMAP, having your own capability of "X-GOOG-ENCRYPT" if t…
STARTTLS is client-to-server (or at least node-to-node). RCS node-to-node is already always encrypted.
E2EE is like both sending and receiving parties agreeing to use PGP. The servers aren't involved with the details; they just move the opaque bytes.
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Yeah definetly would not expect it to be blue as 9 to 5 noted how Apple mentioned it won't be as secure as iMessage and iMessage will be separate. So presumably people texting will still want to know if they see blue they get full privacy where is if they see green or a new color it means yes they get lots of new features like iMessage, but not as secure as iMessage. But the green bubble (or whatever new color) will…
"Privacy" is not the reason a lot of people comment on green text bubbles. It's status. That's it. If they truly cared about sec, they would use something like Signal.
I think it’s become status, but there are genuine reasons as to why people don’t like “green bubbles” in their chats. SMS breaks a lot of functionality that iMessage provides in group chats.
I don’t expect Apple to graduate RCS to a blue bubble, as it’s advantageous to keep the blue bubble “special”. I’ll be interested to see if society adapts and starts treating whatever RCS gets categorized as as “acceptable” or if we’re too far down the classism path for that to happen.
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Pssst... you sure you don't want RCS? All your cool blue bubble friends are using it now!
What? Are you saying this in jest? Then I'm missing the humor because this is completely false...
Yes :/ Like Android might soon use ios compatibility as a reason to further annoy you about changing protocols
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Nobody does, it’s a bitchy trope. Green bubbles matter in group chats. You can’t easily change participants and stuff like reactions generate junk messages.
Very much not a trope. I personally know multiple people who refuse to text green bubbles, to the point of refusing dates from people who have Android.
> I personally know multiple people who refuse to text green bubbles, to the point of refusing dates from people who have Android.
Those people don't sound like people worth knowing. Ignorant and judgy to say the least.
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#276> This will work alongside iMessage, which will continue to be the best and most secure messaging experience for Apple users," said an Apple spokesperson. I could be wrong but I don’t see anything here to suggest non-iMessages will no longer have the “green bubble” like the author assumes.
Green: iMessage Blue: RCS Red : SMS/MMS
There is zero chance they’re going to change iMessage to green. RCS will be green because anything other than iMessage is “other”.
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I get your point but how is Ticketmaster not a parasitic price-gouger?
The artist is their customer, not you. If Ticketmaster didn't gouge you, give most of the gouging proceeds to the artist, and take the flak like a lightning-rod, they would quickly be replaced by a service that did.
What if there was more competition in the space, and there were operators of that didn’t gouge quite so much.
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Very much not a trope. I personally know multiple people who refuse to text green bubbles, to the point of refusing dates from people who have Android.
And I know multiple people who refuse dates from those who have a zodiac sign that is “incompatible” with theirs. I think we can safely disregard that as a factor, despite how relatively not-that-rare it could be.
I mean, the argument isn't that they should accept the date (on the contrary, these signs are actually beneficial for staying the fuck away from these people), the argument, or rather statement is that this sort of "tech jewelry" is very embedded in modern society, with Apple being the frontrunner.
And this has real effects. For example, Im forced to use a piece of shit Macbook at work, where literally everything else in our cloud runs on linux, because the company issues Macs as a way of attracting talent since "tech" people also want tech jewelry.
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I get your point but how is Ticketmaster not a parasitic price-gouger?
A significant amount of Ticketmaster's fees go to the artist. It lets the artist make more money while fans get mad at Ticketmaster instead of the artist.
Ticketmaster could take a smaller cut… or maybe just make their overall UX better for the end user.
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I feel like this is something way more talked about online than actually occurs IRL. I didn't get an iPhone until the 13 (2 years ago?) and I'm still on it. Nobody stopped talking to me because I had green bubbles throughout my, I dunno, 10-15 years of Android phones. They would make fun of me for how reactions (Bob laughs at $reply) looked on my screen but just friendly jabs. I am a millennial though.
I think the age does make a big difference. I'm about 40, and I've rarely heard this IRL among people near or older either. The people I've heard it from were mostly in their teens or early 20s. Some 30s and 40s have admitted to leaving friends or family out of group chats because they were on Android though. But that said, how do you know nobody stopped talking to you because of it? One of my friends (who is early 4…
Most of my friends are in their 40s/50s. No one knows what iMessage or RCS even is if they have an Android or iPhone. WhatsApp spread like wildfire here because no one gives a shit :)