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You're right, there are two tiers of people in the field - people who know how to write software and the others. Bootcamp is literally not a CS grad situation. And I have worked with bootcampers just over a year ago - I can only say that it's just a sea of trash. Most bootcampers are just not trained enough to think more than a minute into the future. As for "they aren't starry eyed", you're literally proving that th…
I know nothing about your company or interview process, but I'm speaking as someone just coming out of a long and painful job hunt. I'll agree only that there are a lot of bad candidates who come out of bootcamps. There are a lot of good ones too. A lot of bootcamps run on the model that they train the bare minimum for a student to get a job, so they can take a cut of the paycheck. What you get is socialites learning…
Sounds like you're speaking like someone that feels slighted by bad hiring, lashing out at groups that have nothing to do with you. I switched jobs twice in the last 3 years, it's not an easy process and I have 18 years of professional experience.
> There are a lot of good ones too.
Not nearly as many as we would like.
> Recruiters post insane expectations
That is changing fast and most of the jobs that I have seen have sane requirements now.
> H1B fresh out of grad school
Grad school - they're advanced degree holders(MS or PHD), that's already above a fresh CS BSc graduate.
H1b has not been a source of cheap engineering talent for years now. The salaries of H1b are legally above median, which squarely puts them out of the CS graduate category. It cost a company $20k for my L1b in 2016, H1b was about half with 30% chance of success and 6-12 month wait.
Saying that CS graduates compete with fresh H1b is ignorant at best.
Advanced degree holders do not compete with CS graduates, that are BSc... let alone bootcampers.