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Google Ending Support for Jamboard

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Re: Google Ending Support for Jamboard

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warframe, wow. and xbox probably meets your definition of a managed solution. Especially a mmo

wow is hardware? xbox 1 doesnt work with live anymore

And chances are that any given Xbox 1 doesn't work, period. Probably went red-ring years ago.

Re: Google Ending Support for Jamboard

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> What if there was a corporation that bought out every entrant involving new technology (not necessarily monopolizing their already dominant verticals, but other new inventions/ideas)? They either have a winner, or they stifle innovation in corresponding area for the lifetime of any associated patents. There are companies like this: patent trolls. That's why the big tech companies all have patent sharing agreements…

It sounds like a corporation could impede the humanity/progress of countries that respect these patents by patent_lifetime * number_of_patents so long as they have the money to do so.

That's literally what a patent troll is

Re: Google Ending Support for Jamboard

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How does Google not recognize the doom loop they’re entering with these decisions? 1. Google has already made it tremendously difficult for any product of theirs to succeed. They could have a product that’s extremely successful by any reasonably measure, but not at Google scale, in which case they kill it. So the standard of success a product needs to reach at Google is already ridiculously high. 2. Because Google ma…

Because their real money-makers still make money.

Re: Google Ending Support for Jamboard

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It's crazy to me that people keep willingly buying hardware that requires a service to work. You have a high up-front cost, yet you're at someone else's mercy. That's the worst of buying and renting combined. Obviously it isn't very profitable to keep supporting a product you've already sold at the moment, so something must be done to make it more attractive. At the very least there should be a support commitment whi…

Many things like cellphone contracts have already gotten this right: You enter a contract guaranteeing service on their end and payment on yours, pay a reduced upfront cost kinda as a deposit, and pay the rest monthly. Then either party can terminate after the contract is up (or you both continue). Cloud-serviced hardware is nothing new.

Somehow this isn't an expectation with IoT, probably because they're shiny new toys in the experimental phases.

Re: Google Ending Support for Jamboard

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Yes? So? The stack from boot-to-emulator can be 100% owned + managed by an organization or individual (and in fact, can be 100% OSS, except for whatever binary blobs are needed). Doesn't have to be crafted from bespoke bytes + bits to count. The important piece is that once this is running, there no one else that can prevent it from operating, except the organization or individual managing it (and perhaps dubious leg…

Say someone provides unofficial Jamboard support, with no cloud. What would that look like, and how many people are going to actually use that vs just changing to a new thing?

Organization keeps a server on-prem that saves + shared boards, and enables collaboration with other people on-prem. Data from the boards are owned by the organization, and can be used as long as they need to.

Re: Google Ending Support for Jamboard

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All of what you just stated, every single issue, was addressed with emails, on-screen notifications, and MS Account notifications. Every single issue. The migration between Mojang and Microsoft took several years to complete. --- > Since 2021, millions of Java Edition players have switched over from their old accounts to Microsoft accounts. > https://help.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/sections/12617909134221 > I don't have…

I can't migrate without access to my old email address unless I wrote down my gift code 11 years ago. I knew about this for 2 years, yet there was nothing I could do. I contacted MS support a few times with no response. Email access was never required until now, just the password, so of course a ton of other people had the same issue. Also, this isn't my job to begin with. Suppose I simply didn't play the game for 2…

I apologize for talking down to you. The whining seemed excessive for an issue that has had multiple different ways to 'fix' the issue.

Lack of diligence tends to be the case with most of the whining posts.

> Suppose I simply didn't play the game for 2 years; I'd deserve to lose my account?

Yup. It's in the ToS. Most companies reserve the right to shut down services with no notice. At least MS provided you with 2 years of notice. MS also provided multiple solutions for persons without access to their old email, account information, or receipt.

Re: Google Ending Support for Jamboard

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I can't migrate without access to my old email address unless I wrote down my gift code 11 years ago. I knew about this for 2 years, yet there was nothing I could do. I contacted MS support a few times with no response. Email access was never required until now, just the password, so of course a ton of other people had the same issue. Also, this isn't my job to begin with. Suppose I simply didn't play the game for 2…

I apologize for talking down to you. The whining seemed excessive for an issue that has had multiple different ways to 'fix' the issue. Lack of diligence tends to be the case with most of the whining posts. > Suppose I simply didn't play the game for 2 years; I'd deserve to lose my account? Yup. It's in the ToS. Most companies reserve the right to shut down services with no notice. At least MS provided you with 2 yea…

I had zero ways to fix the issue (unless I want to call in a favor from a friend who works at MS), and MS didn't provide support. I have my username and password; why isn't that enough?

And yes, every service's ToS says they can legally terminate at any time, just as Google kills all their chat apps periodically; doesn't mean it reflects well on their reputation. Microsoft broke this game for a lot of paid customers, particularly the early adopters.

Re: Google Ending Support for Jamboard

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The SoC was an Nvidia Jetson TX1 (a quad-core Cortex-A57 CPU attached to a beefy Maxwell GPU), and it had a built-in camera, microphone, and speakers for video calls. Jamboard was a pricey item, but $5,000 was just the tip of the iceberg. There was a $600 "annual management and support fee," plus subscriptions to Google Workspace for every user, plus an optional $1,350 for the rolling stand. A one-year total with a s…

Something about the way the article is written makes it sound like the author thinks $1,350 is speedy for a stand. It seems well in line with other manufacturers like Apple, who charge $999 for a stand and $699 for wheels (that cant be attached together and aren’t nearly as tall as Google stand).

https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MWUG2LL/A/pro-stand

Re: Google Ending Support for Jamboard

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How does Google not recognize the doom loop they’re entering with these decisions? 1. Google has already made it tremendously difficult for any product of theirs to succeed. They could have a product that’s extremely successful by any reasonably measure, but not at Google scale, in which case they kill it. So the standard of success a product needs to reach at Google is already ridiculously high. 2. Because Google ma…

The only thing left is stuff that happens in the here and now. You give Google money, they show your ads now. Anything with any permanence gets shut down eventually, so people don't fall for it.

Had Stadia only offered subs without having to buy the games, I'm sure it would still be around.

Re: Google Ending Support for Jamboard

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post #127

It's about time we had legislation (at least in the EU) that mandated an option to be able to use physical products in an offline mode. Features that require a connection to the Internet should only be an augmentation at most and not the core without which the product cannot work.

That would basically ban normal cell phones. You can't do calls without access to the network. Honestly, people buying these products should be smarter. They bought an expensive chalkboard that they knew depends on someone else's computers (unless they didn't even bother to look into how the products work), without any guaranteed server support period anywhere to be found. Anyone who cares about their purchases sudde…

The point is that the phone needs to be navigable without a check with a server. It can fail at taking calls as much as you want, just give me the calculator.
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