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I'm fed up with it, so I'm writing a browser

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Re: I'm fed up with it, so I'm writing a browser

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Post by pseg134 »

WuxiFingerHold wrote: post #226
soyasis wrote: post #53

On the political note of the article: yes, the world is fucked up and it is exhausting to only read fucked up news. I personally believe that disconnecting from reality and becoming 'apolitical' implies giving up on humanity; that is giving up on your kids, nephews and the children of your best friends. No need to change the world, a small change in your community is more than enough. Specially as coders, what we bui…

Disconnecting from the news industry does not automatically imply disconnecting from reality. At least I hope so as I consume non-technical news maybe once a week.

You would be insane to think anything on the news was connected to reality.

Re: I'm fed up with it, so I'm writing a browser

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Post by sailorganymede »

I really feel this: I wrote my own photo roll app PURELY because I wasn't able to find a decent photo roll app which just let me simply tag my images (all of them let me use create albums but sometimes, you want an image in two albums??) so I had to do it myself. I was angry - and I could do something about it. And that was enough.

I applaud the effort and wish you the best luck - also I imagine myself eventually joining you in my own attempt too :P

Re: I'm fed up with it, so I'm writing a browser

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Post by px43 »

adwn wrote: post #60
deaddodo wrote: post #54

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I mean, LadyBird is extremely young and coming along at a pretty decent pace. Though, to be fair, the main author does have some extensive experience in the realm. I, personally, would love to see some alternative engines to the monoculture of Blink and it's WebKit cousin, other than just Gecko/Quantum. Something to take the place of what KHTML used to have before being gobbled up into WebKit; or just another (ideall…

Well, there's Servo [1], which I have high hopes for. [1] https://servo.org/

Quantum (mentioned by parent post) is what Firefox calls their Servo bindings.

Re: I'm fed up with it, so I'm writing a browser

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Post by alex_suzuki »

grishka wrote: post #223
nfw2 wrote: post #221

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"PWA stuff no one asked for" You don't speak for everybody.

I've yet to see someone take a PWA seriously.

I’ve written many business process apps that are PWAs.

Install to homescreen is great for customers that don’t want to go through the app store yet still want their employees to have “an app” (something with an icon on the home screen).

Some are even offline-capable.

Re: I'm fed up with it, so I'm writing a browser

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Post by foobarian »

mgbmtl wrote: post #265
93po wrote: post #250

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It’s unfortunate that the message discussing enemies was flagged. Maybe it needed to be said in a better way? The US government is undeniably often working against the best interests of its citizens. Corporations, corporate news, and advertisers are also working against our best interests. Im not sure any mindful and reasonable person would refute this. However I will be charitable in saying that I don’t think they’r…

I didn't flag/mod the comment, but I think it errs towards conspiracy theories. I'm not American, and I understand the American government does evil things sometimes, but it also does a lot of good things for its citizens. It builds roads, keeps the skies clear, funds education, health systems, sues tech giants when they go too far, tries to manage the speculation/money markets, etc. To say "undeniably often working…

Think about what kind of life our grand- or grand-grandparents had. They went from horse-drawn carriages and muddy streets, to modern cars on roads in their lifetime. Even us older neckbeards went from 8-bit computers to modern PCs on modern networks.

But I feel like this progress has reached the end of the S-curve and there is a feeling of bitterness and disappointment slowly seeping into our collective conscious, whether we realize it or not. The other things about propaganda and modern news I think are more side effects.

Re: I'm fed up with it, so I'm writing a browser

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Post by grishka »

Lord-Jobo wrote: post #260
grishka wrote: post #181

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> The browser is so comprehensive in functionality and APIs Not really. If you limit your scope by saying that you're building a hypertext document viewer , it suddenly becomes approachable. A lot of the functionality is all that PWA stuff no one asked for and no one is using for anything good anyway. WebSQL? IndexedDB? Service workers? WebGL? WebGPU? WebBluetooth? WebRTC? Just act like it all doesn't exist. 99% of a…

>99% of actual websites — not web "apps" — would not lose any functionality. What percentage of user driven web traffic is done through 'web "apps"' and what percentage is 'actual websites'

IMO most of what people do on the web is either reading articles (these don't even need JS), watching videos (no advanced browser functionality needed either), or writing comments and messages (some rather simple JS if any).

Re: I'm fed up with it, so I'm writing a browser

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Post by aktenlage »

gen220 wrote: post #193
grishka wrote: post #181

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> The browser is so comprehensive in functionality and APIs Not really. If you limit your scope by saying that you're building a hypertext document viewer , it suddenly becomes approachable. A lot of the functionality is all that PWA stuff no one asked for and no one is using for anything good anyway. WebSQL? IndexedDB? Service workers? WebGL? WebGPU? WebBluetooth? WebRTC? Just act like it all doesn't exist. 99% of a…

In a world where UNIX-inspired systems run most software, I like to imagine that it’s possible for a UNIX-like browser to become dominant. Recall that UNIX (and C) were built (and adopted) in response to perceived over-complexities in contemporary systems. Maybe in 20 years we’ll recall + interact with Chrome like how people in the 80s recall + interacted with Multics or OS/360. To complete the analogy, I guess you’d…

> To complete the analogy, I guess you’d expect to see this browser come out of former Safari interns/engineers at Apple.

Sounds like Andreas Kling: https://www.techgamingreport.com/new-ladybird-web-browser-wh...

Re: I'm fed up with it, so I'm writing a browser

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Post by charcircuit »

BobbyJo wrote: post #198
jaytaph wrote: post #59

OP here. Thanks for the pos/neg/neutral comments everybody. Some remarks: Yes, there are a lot of browsers out there where I can contribute to which would be more efficient. But that would result in just a few browsers instead of a lot of browsers. I'm all for the last one, as this would give people options. This IS a pet project. I never told anyone otherwise. I would start writing it even when I wasn't fed up with…

-"I'm building a hot rod!" -"Why wouldn't you just go hang out on the factory line at Ford instead?"

The difference is instead of buying parts to build the hotrod you instead start by making an iron mine.

If you want to make something custom you don't need to start from scratch.

Re: I'm fed up with it, so I'm writing a browser

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Post by digging »

marginalia_nu wrote: post #258
digging wrote: post #255

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I'm not upset at the OP, but I wouldn't say this is a golden rule. Some people make some really atrocious shit. People should, in general, be at least a little critical of what they're making.

It's fine to make atrocious shit though. Making something good takes practice. Often you need to see what sticks. Sometimes the only outcome is a lesson. The master has failed more times than a beginner has even tried.

Sorry - I don't mean low-quality, I mean evil.
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