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Poll: What's Your Favorite Programming Language?
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Re: Poll: What's Your Favorite Programming Language?
#272C# really feels like the most mature language that I've ever dealt with. Writing it feels clear, if something is wrong the debugger is very clear. The number of features that are there is incredible (especially post C# 2.0 when they added generics). Properties are delightful. How do you convert to a string? Convert.ToString(). How about an integer? Knowing only that one, it's what you'd expect! I also picked JavaScri…
I've spent most of my time in the open source world, and I would have to agree that C# on .NET feels like the most mature high-level software development tool I've ever used. C#'s biggest strength isn't the language. While the language is nice, there isn't a lot you can do with it in terms of productive development that you can't at least approximate in Java, especially with a good IDE to generate your boiler plate f…
> While the language is nice, there isn't a lot you can do with it in terms of productive development that you can't at least approximate in Java
There is no substitute for lambdas :)
Re: Poll: What's Your Favorite Programming Language?
#273The number of votes for Objective-C is really funny to me, because I've never talked with a fellow objc developer that would describe it as their favorite language. Apples platform may be their favorite platform to develop for, but I and everyone else begrudgingly uses objc to target it. Granted, they have been adding some very useful features to the language over the past couple years that I rely heavily on, but I'd…
I like the message sending syntax of objective-c. At first it was so weird, but now I almost hate looking at anything else.
After awhile, I think most people even begin to appreciate it's verbosity. You can make it read like english pretty well.
Of course, I'm sure I wouldn't like Objective-C without Cocoa or I wouldn't like writing it on Windows.
I've never been able to get round the whole whitespace thing in Python and Ruby. I really like brackets and they've always been the strongest thing to signal where code starts and ends.
Re: Poll: What's Your Favorite Programming Language?
#274C# really feels like the most mature language that I've ever dealt with. Writing it feels clear, if something is wrong the debugger is very clear. The number of features that are there is incredible (especially post C# 2.0 when they added generics). Properties are delightful. How do you convert to a string? Convert.ToString(). How about an integer? Knowing only that one, it's what you'd expect! I also picked JavaScri…
Is it still a good choice if you don't intend to deploy to Windows?
Re: Poll: What's Your Favorite Programming Language?
#275I answered Objective-C only because I'm considering the entire ecosystem around a language in addition to the actual language (its features, idioms, and syntax).
Objective-C isn't a particularly pretty language, in my opinion - but when XCode's powerful code completion, decent visual debugger, and awesome static analysis come into play, it's a lot more attractive.
Plus, for me, programming is about the goal, with the journey an oft-pleasant and very engrossing side effect. Objective-C hits the sweet spot where the language and toolchain gets out of my way and lets me build beautiful, functional software that people actually use.
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Definitely agree with you on C#. It feels like this is what a standard, mature, widespread language should be. There are other languages that are better for specific tasks, but for the general programming language, C# really hits the sweet spot in terms of features, expressability, readability, and environment. This is the language that Java should have been--could have been. Also, I dread getting asked on my next in…
C# programmer for a couple years, and I think C# is OK (it's definitely way ahead of Java or C++) but I've definitely got a big list of things I don't like about it. The top of it reads: - Events and properties aren't first-class, which is lame. I can't even easily get the "get" or "set" method of a property without either using reflection or making a wrapper lambda. - No syntax sugar for tuples. - No syntax sugar fo…
Your list basically boils down to "C# isn't ". Which is fair of course, but most of your list wouldn't really make sense in C#.
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I don't dismiss C# developers, I'm just glad I'm not one anymore.
Do you mind if I ask why? Not being defensive, just curious.
Well, I'm not the gp, but I am a former C# guy who's happy to be out of that world.
1) I dislike C#'s types; they're neither as strong and intelligent as a ML/Haskell language nor as convenient as a Python/Ruby family language.
2) I much prefer the sense of design displayed by Python and Ruby open source projects over C#. (Not that there aren't issues there!)
3) I hate Visual Studio. Nice debugger, crappy interface for writing code. Horrific user interface design for the most part. (At least back when I was writing C# back in 2009!)
4) I hate Windows. Linux and Mac are far more developer friendly. I hated dealing with Cygwin to get some sort of reasonable (crappy but tolerable) command line environment.
5) I love git. Until fairly recently, git was not available and stable on Windows. For it and for many other bits of software, windows is a second class citizen.
Shall I go on? Because I could. But I'll leave it at 5 for now.
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4clojure.com was very helpful for me, as was this: http://jkkramer.wordpress.com/2011/03/29/clojure-python-side...
Thanks! I don't know how to pay you back, but I shall try to pay it forward.
No worries, glad I could help.
I think another thing that gave me a boost was when, for whatever reason, I decided that I should avoid for loops when writing day-to-day python. I started using list comprehensions, and then map, filter and reduce, and functools.partial, whenever possible. I had tried to approach lisps before, but I found it easier after those became habitual.
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I like Mono, and I respect the work that they've accomplished. It is incredibly difficult to build a runtime like .NET, especially as it was never designed to be cross-platform. That said, the Mono experience on Linux is inferior to that on Windows. MonoDevelop is nowhere near Visual Studio, so that I just develop on Windows and deploy on Linux. Unfortunately, that doesn't help the fact that both the soft and hard de…
It is incredibly difficult to build a runtime like .NET, especially as it was never designed to be cross-platform. Just a historical note: The Shared Source Common Language Infrastructure [1] aka "Rotor" is an alternative version of the .net 2.0 platform developed by Microsoft for research/education use. It can be compiled for FreeBSD and Mac OS X 10. Its rather out of date, but maybe shows that MS did make some kind…
I remember working on Rotor when I was at Corel.
I'm glad to see someone still uses it:)