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What is it that prevents the rest of the vim community from adopting neovim? From what I can observe, a great deal already have. But for the folks holding out, what is it that outweighs all that neovim has to offer?
$ rpm -qi neovim
package neovim is not installed
$ dnf search neovim
No matches.
Why so many people love vim? I have a genuine question. I was trying to delete contents of a file and paste new content. It was nightmare for me to remember the 3 or 4 finger combination shortcuts with small and cap letters involved during the process. I like if the shortcuts using Ctrl or shift or Alt or Command or Windows buttons over 3 finger with caps changing keys. The cognitive load in remembering shortcuts is…
For me the answer is simple: I think in vim. It’s unclear how I got there. It was long ago but my guess is two key things: I believed in rumors/stories and I didn’t give up. Tbh, if vim wasn’t vi-like, I’d still use it for its programmability. I’m certain that everyone has to use what fits their personality. (Added: not concerned with speed or whatever unless an editor starts choking or popping up interfering crap ra…
When you use it, either in a text field or in an editor, there’s a little uncertainty where ctrl-stops are and how the cursor behaves regarding EOL. Is symbol/char a ctrl boundary? Does it jump forwards at the same positions like backwards? If I move up to a shorter line, will it retain a column index and an EOL flag? If I , does it have EOL flag at all? Which way do you select whole lines? Home shift-down? Home home shift-down? Ctrl-L? You want to select whole lines to not deal with extra indent on paste. Or does an editor fix that?
There are lots of editors that behave differently. Almost all of them.
What bug me in it, is that you now have to wait for ctrl-arrow to finish somewhere, but you don’t know where. So, combined with a high repeat rate (which you want unless you like watching a snail to run or paint to dry) it becomes a release-timely game. I definitely remember struggling with that when I still used windows-style editors.
It would be not an issue if I chose one and used it. But they die or get ancient wrt useful plugins so quickly. Norton, borland, ulti-something, notepad++, various IDEs, linux zoo, sublime, atom, vscode. There’s no end to it. One decade and it’s either “obsolete” or requires a high-end ssd to just start.
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What source can he give you? It's clearly a personal annecdote that is shared between a lot of people that use vim. What kind of source are you thinking about?
I don't know, I'm not the one who made the claim that X was faster than Y. Are you saying that studying how efficient various text editors are for some groups of people is not possible? Here's what I believe to be an example of some study on how text editors compare: https://mjambon.github.io/vim-vs-emacs/ Not saying that this is a good study - I haven't even read it. Merely providing it as an example that at some po…
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!pwd works for me in nvim, I use it every day
Try something that uses input, e.g. a pager (`:!git log`), or a password (`:!sudo something`), or `:!top`, or something with even the simplest formatted output (`:!watch -n1 lsusb`).
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Useful checklist: https://getyourshittogether.org/ Others in this thread have talked about safety deposit boxes and buried crates. I'd add that you can just give some trusted party a normal encrypted USB flash drive, and eliminate the risk of getting absolutely rinsed out in the event of a house burglary by splitting the password amongst an arbitrary number of your other contacts using the Shamir's Secret Sharing alg…
I call this a Horcrux. Also, unless your arbitrary number of friends are cryptographers, it's a sure way for them to collectively lose your shit.
You can have 2-of-20 which encrypts an encrypted blob whose key you share in your will
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Also the deliberate lack of GUI for neovim. The currently extant neovim GUI shells are all universally broken, and some of them crash more than they run. I have yet to find one that is remotely as good as MacVim on macOS. I suspect that most of them are merely tolerable on Linux and some might be barely acceptable on Windows.
With their recent release a few days ago, Neovide has become my daily driver for Neovim on my personal cpu. It were definitely rough edges a few versions ago, but I’m rather pleased where they are now. I find a lot of Rust GUI projects are slow-going but this has had a good pace
What is it that prevents the rest of the vim community from adopting neovim? From what I can observe, a great deal already have. But for the folks holding out, what is it that outweighs all that neovim has to offer?
If neovim had the same keystrokes to move out of a terminal window as it does to move out of editor windows, I'd switch. But as it is, it's super clunky compared to vim. I know about rebinding to alt, but that doesn't work in all my terminals. So for me, it's that one lousy thing that keeps me from switching. And if someone knows the magic setting to make it mimic vim, please let me know.
What is it that prevents the rest of the vim community from adopting neovim? From what I can observe, a great deal already have. But for the folks holding out, what is it that outweighs all that neovim has to offer?
The resulting feature set was closer to VS Code than Vi. If that’s “slow”, it was still so fast it felt instant.