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Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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stjohnswarts wrote: post #253
andreygrehov wrote: post #183

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> Russia has made themselves the enemy of the west Well, either that or the west has decided that Russia is the enemy. I honestly don't buy the saying "Russia has made themselves the enemy of the west". Why would anybody want to be the enemy of the global superpower?

They have though. They showed they don't care about borders and that if they're successful in Ukraine then they will just keep trying in the next nation over. Tyrants are never happy and always need more to conquer and to control. You can't just let them roll over other countries because they're a "super power" because evidently they aren't since Ukraine with help from the west is at least keeping them at bay.

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Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by smolder »

consumer451 wrote: post #270
smolder wrote: post #269

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They don't just "hate the west" because it distracts their citizens from domestic issues. That's ridiculous. They are resisting the global hegemony in defense of their autonomy. Just like we don't sign up to be slaves, as individuals.

What does "resisting the global hegemony" have to do with annexing neighboring countries, slaughtering civilians in their homes, and then kidnapping their children?

I'm not in support of war. Don't try to straw man me as a Putin supporter. This is just baiting me into an argument about "who is worse" when that's irrelevant to what I said.

To be clear, I'd much rather live here than in Russia, and I also would prefer that Russia wasn't slaughtering people in Ukraine, including their own.

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by someone321 »

afavour wrote: post #135
someone321 wrote: post #119

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> To me, the fact is that before pointing to what wrongs others do, we should fix our own thing. What's the phrase... letting perfect be the enemy of good? We'll never be perfect. So by that logic we won't ever be able to criticise anyone, even if their record is considerably worse than our own. > The US collects so much data about everyone, but people seem to find that ok. On the other hand, Russia collecting data i…

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Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by talldatethrow »

mcpackieh wrote: post #258
talldatethrow wrote: post #226

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This wasn't a killer that broke in and killed someone. This was more like going to an old friend and asking for something you left there years ago.

The Russian military are literally killers breaking into Ukraine and killing people.

I'm pretty sure the first shot was fired by Ukrainians.

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by oneshtein »

talldatethrow wrote: post #274
mcpackieh wrote: post #258

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The Russian military are literally killers breaking into Ukraine and killing people.

I'm pretty sure the first shot was fired by Ukrainians.

Girkin was first: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Girkin

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Post by AtlasBarfed »

sidibe wrote: post #19
tenpies wrote: post #11

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Also Western billionaire versus Russian oligarch - even if the source of wealth is virtually identical and their political power probably higher in the West.

I do think they don't use oligarch for all Russian billionaires. For example it isn't used for Tinkov or Durov. In 90s-00s there really were oligarchs, now they use it for the ones that are or were maybe affiliated with government, like the childhood friends of Putin or former KGB/St Petersburg mayor's office employees who all happen to be CEOs of huge companies

I've heard successive stories of oligarchs getting shaken down for money or outright purged by Putin that I don't think Russia is an oligarchy. That implies some collective decision making.

The Ukraine war is madness and reflects a ruler with absolute power.

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by konart »

oneshtein wrote: post #266
konart wrote: post #249

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>they are killing Holodomor researchers Any examples?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gareth_Jones_(journalist) https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%8F%D0%BA... https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A9%D1%83%D0%BA%D1%96%D0%BD...

>Gareth Jones

was killed almost a century ago..

>Volodymyr Manyak

car accident

>Volodymyr Shukin

murdered, no suspects etc. I understand the suspicion, but this is nothing but suspicion at this point.

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by ric2b »

lampshades wrote: post #196
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #13

>Do we want, at a time when Russia is considering the UK as an enemy, to be providing all our personal details to a server in Moscow? Depends how good the search is. Google doesn’t seem to want to provide me proper results anymore, even very basic image search tasks on google now net you only about 20 results all of which are wrong or useless. Yandex image search actually works. If you don’t want me to use the Russia…

I use Yandex whenever I feel like Google is censoring something. Turns out I feel that way a lot.

Is the feeling right more or less often than you expect?

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by Xelbair »

avgcorrection wrote: post #178
Xelbair wrote: post #44

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Kinda, it's basically capitalism with a lot of insider trading, where your connections mattered more than what you did. t. someone from country which underwent that.

That sounds like Capitalism minus all the propaganda about merit and capitalist-class productivity. So just Capitalism.

It sounds like that, but believe me, it was vastly worse than current times. Except if you were in lucky 0.1% that had those connections, and also had no conscience.

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Post by oneshtein »

konart wrote: post #277
oneshtein wrote: post #266

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gareth_Jones_(journalist) https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%8F%D0%BA... https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A9%D1%83%D0%BA%D1%96%D0%BD...

>Gareth Jones was killed almost a century ago.. >Volodymyr Manyak car accident >Volodymyr Shukin murdered, no suspects etc. I understand the suspicion, but this is nothing but suspicion at this point.

Science director of Shukin was killed in the same way:

https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A8%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%8E%D0%BA...

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