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Re: Llama 2

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Post by lukev »

nicolashahn wrote: post #161

I asked llama2 why I should use it over chatgpt: " llama2 and chatgpt are both powerful language models, but they have some key differences that may make one more suitable for your needs than the other. llama2 is a more recent model, and it has been specifically designed for conversational AI tasks, such as answering questions and engaging in dialogue. It has been trained on a large dataset of text from the internet…

Can we please not do this with every new chatbot out there?

LLMs have no visibility into their own workings. The results of asking a LLM about itself are unreliable and honestly, uninteresting.

Re: Llama 2

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Post by unshavedyak »

TechBro8615 wrote: post #244
unshavedyak wrote: post #219

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The best charity is one that benefits both parties, no?

That's just a trade. If we assume "charity" is "altruism," then by definition there must be no benefit to the giver.

How can it be a trade if one party gave nothing to the other party? If one company gets good PR and a group gets something for free, how is that a trade?

One party can benefit and give nothing, while the other party still benefits.

I've literally never done anything charitable by your definition then, because i do it because it makes me feel good. I like helping others. Perhaps the only charitable companies or people are masochists? Hah

Re: Llama 2

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Post by jug »

rajko_rad wrote: post #18

Hey HN, we've released tools that make it easy to test LLaMa 2 and add it to your own app! Model playground here: https://llama2.ai Hosted chat API here: https://replicate.com/a16z-infra/llama13b-v2-chat If you want to just play with the model, llama2.ai is a very easy way to do it. So far, we’ve found the performance is similar to GPT-3.5 with far fewer parameters, especially for creative tasks and interactions. Dev…

Still fails my hippo test!

> Yes, hippos are excellent swimmers. They spend most of their time in the water, where they feed on aquatic plants and escape the heat of the savannah. In fact, hippos are one of the best swimmers among all land mammals.

But that's fine. Most do. Hippos don't swim. They walk or hop/skip at best underwater.

Re: Llama 2

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Post by jug »

herpderperator wrote: post #229
rajko_rad wrote: post #18

Hey HN, we've released tools that make it easy to test LLaMa 2 and add it to your own app! Model playground here: https://llama2.ai Hosted chat API here: https://replicate.com/a16z-infra/llama13b-v2-chat If you want to just play with the model, llama2.ai is a very easy way to do it. So far, we’ve found the performance is similar to GPT-3.5 with far fewer parameters, especially for creative tasks and interactions. Dev…

...is this supposed to make sense? https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/5j0mtwdrqm08dxbh84hh6/Screen-...

LLM's generally don't do math well. GPT-4 has made some strides but I have to wonder if it's using special mechanisms to support it with delegation to special training or modes. I know for a fact Google's Bing has some mechanisms specifically for it too but it's really just crutches that also easily fall apart.

These are first and foremost specifically for language... and no, not the "language of math" ;-)

If you're interested in doing math on an open model, I'd rather look into integrating LLaMa 2 with Wolfram Alpha. That would be a very nice complement! And there's no reason to see it as admitting defeat. AI and engineering at large is all about using the best tools for the purpose!

Re: Llama 2

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Post by sebzim4500 »

gentleman11 wrote: post #138
andy99 wrote: post #20

Another non-open source license. Getting better but don't let anyone tell you this is open source. http://marble.onl/posts/software-licenses-masquerading-as-op...

On HN, I really expected better of people. Why does everybody think this is open source? Every third comments is about how it's open source, but it's not Does everyone also think OpenAI is open source? Or a non-profit? Does putting open in the name just mean you're going to love it?

> On HN, I really expected better of people. Why does everybody think this is open source?

If you put five HN users in a room you will get at least a dozen definitions of "open source".

>Does everyone also think OpenAI is open source?

No one thinks that OpenAI is open source.

> Or a non-profit?

I think most people just assume that OpenAI is a for profit company (which it is). There is of course a non-profit foundation that is a majority shareholder in it.

> Does putting open in the name just mean you're going to love it?

Obviously not, since people here definitely see Meta as the good guy when compared to OpenAI.

Re: Llama 2

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Post by rileyphone »

alexeldeib wrote: post #24
whimsicalism wrote: post #4

Key detail from release: > If, on the Llama 2 version release date, the monthly active users of the products or services made available by or for Licensee, or Licensee’s affiliates, is greater than 700 million monthly active users in the preceding calendar month, you must request a license from Meta, which Meta may grant to you in its sole discretion, and you are not authorized to exercise any of the rights under thi…

https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2023/07/18/microsoft-and-me... I think this is effectively an Apple + Amazon + Google ban? (MS employee, just noticing interesting intersection of announcements and licensing).

Wow, that looks so bad from an anti-trust/competitiveness standpoint. M$ is embracing AI just like it embraced the internet 25 years ago.

Re: Llama 2

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Post by sebzim4500 »

gentleman11 wrote: post #130
GreedClarifies wrote: post #39

The benchmarks look amazing compared to other open source LLMs. Bravo Meta. Also allowing commercial use? Can be downloaded today? Available on Azure AI model catalog today? This is a very impressive release. However, if I were starting a company I would be a little worried about the Llama 2 Acceptable Use Policy. Some of the terms in there are a little vague and quite broad. They could, potentially, be weaponized in…

It's not even remotely open source

I would argue that it is remotely open source.
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