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Re: Apple releases Ipad 3

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Post by cypherpunks2 »

rdl wrote: post #153
ugh wrote: post #120

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But the other thing is quality. Viewing angles and color gamut tends to be horrible on laptops. Not so on the iPad.

There was a single plant which made big laptop IPS panels (15-17") which got shut down; they were used in IBM FlexView on the Lenovos up to the T60p (2006). IPS is still rare between iPad size and small high-end monitor size (20"). I'm still sad that even the MBP 17 comes with a 6-bit PVA panel. It's a nice panel, but dramatically inferior to an 8 or 10 bit IPS.

My ThinkPad has the same resolution as the new iPad -- 2048x1536. I'm thinking of upgrading it to an iPad if it ever runs Linux...

Re: Apple releases Ipad 3

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Post by ctdonath »

mark_l_watson wrote: post #161
Aloisius wrote: post #10

It should be noted that the limited data plans for both AT&T and Verizon mean that at the max 4G speed of 73 Mbps, you could use all your bandwidth for the entire month in less than three and a half minutes (2 GB plan). The overages of $10/GB per month on both services mean once you go over your plan, you'll be looking at a little over $5/minute in new charges. It is possible (though highly unlikely) to rack up over…

Don't most people, really, use iPads over wifi? Or am I just one of the cheapskates who bought one without 3G or 4G support? I bought an iPad 2 last year and I didn't even consider buying one with a data plan. I am near wifi about 99% of the time, discounting driving, hiking, and airplane time. In a pinch, I can check email on my Droid. Eventually 4G will become inexpensive, but it isn't right now.

"Don't most people, really, use iPads over wifi?"

No. I don't use the work wifi because it is severely limited (paranoid IT guy) and my iPad may access material I'd rather they not sniff (just NOYB stuff). I use it on the road for mapping, impromptu parking-lot Grouponing, whatever far from wifi. Open routers still often have some irritant signin or blacklists. Even at home my iPad often gets 3G better than wifi.

Don't underestimate the value of "always connected". A legacy unlimited plan multiplies it.

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Post by _frog »

trotsky wrote: post #108
philiphodgen wrote: post #71

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For publications you will use locally on the iPad, maybe. If you're intending to publish via Apple, I'd say wait. After two weeks of waiting for Apple to approve a book I yanked it and am having the manuscript converted for Kindle sale as we speak. The conversion from the .ibooks file to anything usable in the real world was a giant pain. All of which was predictable and I knew that going in. But as a book-writing to…

Doesn't Creator's license restrict you from publishing a book authored with it on a different platform?

Yes but the output format used is proprietary superset of the ePub standard so it wouldn't be possible to view them on other platforms anyway.

Re: Apple releases Ipad 3

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Post by [deleted] »

trotsky wrote: post #108
philiphodgen wrote: post #71

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For publications you will use locally on the iPad, maybe. If you're intending to publish via Apple, I'd say wait. After two weeks of waiting for Apple to approve a book I yanked it and am having the manuscript converted for Kindle sale as we speak. The conversion from the .ibooks file to anything usable in the real world was a giant pain. All of which was predictable and I knew that going in. But as a book-writing to…

Doesn't Creator's license restrict you from publishing a book authored with it on a different platform?

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Re: Apple releases Ipad 3

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Post by beedogs »

dangrossman wrote: post #266
beedogs wrote: post #265

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Not really. Depends how badly you need credit, I guess. It'd actually be amusing to see how long they'd pursue a couple hundred dollars.

There are three possible explanations for your comments: 1) You're a multimillionaire without aspiration, and shouldn't be giving financial advice to the rest of us non-millionaires. 2) You're a troll, or are acting like one to get yourself hellbanned for some reason. 3) Your recent spat of negative karma comments are the result of some kind of new mental health issue, and you need to see a doctor.

So, in the strange little world you inhabit, only fabulously wealthy people eschew credit cards and don't spend their life worrying about their credit score? What a terrible place that must be.

And what kind of crap-ass site would ban someone for the three (out of five) comments I've made today which have been downvoted?

Pretty sure I can spot the actual troll here.

Re: Apple releases Ipad 3

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Post by cletus »

Aloisius wrote: post #10

It should be noted that the limited data plans for both AT&T and Verizon mean that at the max 4G speed of 73 Mbps, you could use all your bandwidth for the entire month in less than three and a half minutes (2 GB plan). The overages of $10/GB per month on both services mean once you go over your plan, you'll be looking at a little over $5/minute in new charges. It is possible (though highly unlikely) to rack up over…

I'm disappointed the "top" comment on this announcement is nothing more than a sideways swipe at an unrelated topic from someone who clearly has an axe to grind.

In Australia, the ACCC banned the use of the word "unlimited" (with respect to Internet access, wireless or fixed-line) unless it truly was unlimited. No shaping, hard or soft quotas, excess usage charges and vague "fair use" provisions. The result? You get what you pay for and you pay for what you get. If you pay for 1TB/month on an ADSL line you're absolutely going to get it.

The real problem here is a combination of false advertising and people with completely unrealistic expectations. Not everyone can use 73Mbps all the time. There simply isn't the bandwidth for it. If you want to download 100GB+/month you should absolutely be paying more than someone who only downloads 2GB/month.

Back to the "new iPad" (why not iPad 3? Seriously!), i'm excited about it. Having it be able to do 1080p is great, although I think it's high time they up the flash storage at this point. 64GB doesn't go that far at Full HD.

The RAM, CPU and memory upgrades make this a pretty serious device now. The release of iPhoto is probably going to be unfortunately for many photo app makers (and hopefully it'll mean an end to Photoshop Touch's ridiculous 1600x1600 limit).

Apple just continues to cement their complete dominance against, well, everyone in the tablet space.

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Post by mgkimsal »

bunderbunder wrote: post #204
dagw wrote: post #185

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But once you go to 4G, that limitation just doesn't make sense any more. I know several people for whom 4G is the fastest internet connection available to them. Sure you could hack around it by setting up a wifi hotspot on a different 4G device, but still forcing them to use a slower network for larger downloads seems kind of dumb.

Heck, for me 3G is the fastest data available to me. However, 3G (and 4G) are much more expensive, in terms of the price it costs to transmit a given quantity of data. And compared to glass and copper, the total number of bits available within a given geographic area at any given moment is a fraction as large. Unfortunately, cellular companies failed to realize that offering "unlimited" data plans would set up poor e…

"They (apparently) didn't anticipate seeing a significant percentage of their customers try to use the cellular networks for transferring large quantities of data, and thought that for most people "unlimited" would just be a marketing-friendly euphemism for "a couple hundred megabytes.""

I wonder if many execs and marketing people at large mobile companies really didn't see this coming, as we had years of 'unlimited texts' being promoted, and an entire generation of people texting thousands of times per day. Did execs get adjusted to 'unlimited' as it applies to texting, and naively assume that 'web' usage wouldn't be significantly different?

I can't really say for sure, but that just struck me as a possibility for why many mobile execs don't seem to 'get it' with respect to mobile data.

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Post by beedogs »

batista wrote: post #270
beedogs wrote: post #249

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> Data is seriously expensive for the carriers. That is a load of horseshit.

Really? What do you know about the cost of infrastructure and its capacity? Thank you.

I know enough to conclude that it hasn't gotten more expensive to ship bits in the past ten years. Yet, here we are in the US, shifting from unlimited data plans to rate-limited, capped plans, and no one seems to have come up with a convincing explanation as to why that's occurring.

Re: Apple releases Ipad 3

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Post by sneak »

cletus wrote: post #276
Aloisius wrote: post #10

It should be noted that the limited data plans for both AT&T and Verizon mean that at the max 4G speed of 73 Mbps, you could use all your bandwidth for the entire month in less than three and a half minutes (2 GB plan). The overages of $10/GB per month on both services mean once you go over your plan, you'll be looking at a little over $5/minute in new charges. It is possible (though highly unlikely) to rack up over…

I'm disappointed the "top" comment on this announcement is nothing more than a sideways swipe at an unrelated topic from someone who clearly has an axe to grind. In Australia, the ACCC banned the use of the word "unlimited" (with respect to Internet access, wireless or fixed-line) unless it truly was unlimited. No shaping, hard or soft quotas, excess usage charges and vague "fair use" provisions. The result? You get…

"why not iPad 3? Seriously!"

The video shown at the end of the announcement event has an Apple employee referring to it as "the third-generation iPad".

This seems very strange to me, considering how on-message Apple has ALWAYS been in the past. It's just... sloppy.

I wonder if Apple has a future beyond its current momentum. I'll be convinced otherwise ifwhen they release another world-changing product that wasn't invented by Steve.

Re: Apple releases Ipad 3

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Post by mdonahoe »

robomartin wrote: post #215
Aloisius wrote: post #10

It should be noted that the limited data plans for both AT&T and Verizon mean that at the max 4G speed of 73 Mbps, you could use all your bandwidth for the entire month in less than three and a half minutes (2 GB plan). The overages of $10/GB per month on both services mean once you go over your plan, you'll be looking at a little over $5/minute in new charges. It is possible (though highly unlikely) to rack up over…

If you have two or more iPads, why do they make you pay multiple monthly fixed-price amounts for connectivity? This is even more ridiculous when you consider that most devices are probably on WiFi most of the time. So, you are paying $mm per month times N devices for, well, nothing. It's time for these contracts to become more reasonable. Right now they border on being nothing more than theft. Imagine this: You pay A…

The contracts are for the devices, not you. It is possible to use them both at the same time, so ATT wants your money.

I definitely agree that they should do it your way though. Pricing is part of the product, and simple-to-understand pricing schemes will sell.

In the meantime, you might be able to get creative with swapping SIM cards around.

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