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InfluxDB Cloud shuts down in Belgium; some weren't notified before data deletion

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Re: InfluxDB Cloud shuts down in Belgium; some weren't notified before data deletion

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Why do customers believe that they don’t need to read their emails?

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Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

Re: InfluxDB Cloud shuts down in Belgium; some weren't notified before data deletion

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post #29

Hi, cofounder and CTO here. We notified everyone via email on February 23, April 6 and May 15th. We also offered to help migrate all users. I realize that it's not ideal that we've shut down this system, but we made our best efforts to notify affected users and give them options to move over to other regions. If you've been impacted by this, please email me personally and I will do my best to help out: paul at influx…

You did enough to help, just ignore these ungrateful whiners

Re: InfluxDB Cloud shuts down in Belgium; some weren't notified before data deletion

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https://community.influxdata.com/t/getting-weird-results-fro...

>Unfortunately @RoyalBlock at this time it does look like the data is lost for Sydney. We are still looking into it but I am 90% sure this is sadly the case.

https://community.influxdata.com/t/getting-weird-results-fro...

>Data recovery is still in process. If you where part of the Belgium customer you will receive the last 90 days of your data. Support will email you directly once this process is ready.

Better than nothing for the Belgium tenants, I suppose.

Re: InfluxDB Cloud shuts down in Belgium; some weren't notified before data deletion

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post #236

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Not sure why the downvotes here, a database service misusing semantic version is itself a red flag in my opinion. If major releases don't indicate a breaking change I'm not as confident in what might be part of a minor or patch release.

To be fair, they have a bunch of associated tooling like their query language and UI, so it might have been those that have merited a bump to 3.x

Yeah that could be, but I think that would still only merit the bump it there was a breaking change in the public API

Re: InfluxDB Cloud shuts down in Belgium; some weren't notified before data deletion

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I've seen better communications around company-internal services that have been deprecated and for which a replacement exists that we need to migrate to. Heck, I've seen this a couple of times. We had even tried out Influx a few different times. It was always ok, but never quite good enough. Now with this, I think, this seals the deal on me ever considering Influx either as a product or as a service.

What did you choose over Influx?

GP here.

First time: we chose Timescale over Influx (and a few other competitors). I really liked Timescale. This was ~2.5 years ago and obviously Timescale was much less mature than today.

We also sent data to AWS Timestream. We're heavy AWS users and got to try out the product. I found it ok, but it was expensive even for us (Disney+).

Second time: team migrated from Influx to Clickhouse for server and network metrics. Services had been relying on that data being correct and timely in order to route traffic, and well...there were issues. The simplest solution was simply to replace Influx with a product more suited to handling high volumes of metrics...yeah, ironic.

Re: InfluxDB Cloud shuts down in Belgium; some weren't notified before data deletion

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post #225

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99% of cases there are no legal implication of moving data in another country inside EU. Amsterdam is the closest in Geographic and Political sense. These are cloud data. already subject to EU Policy and not country specific. Those that really have the country condition can not even use a cloud provider but need to rent/collocate servers (not services) in the country.

Last time I checked, Sydney is not in the EU.

Sydney is not but this thread (at least the title) was for europe-west1 in Belgium which is in EU.

Re: InfluxDB Cloud shuts down in Belgium; some weren't notified before data deletion

#277
I worked at a wireless telecom company 10 years ago. The local switches did not have a consistent decom procedure. One switch removed two routers and had it on a truck to leave that was used for a critical service all within a few hours. It would have taken a week or longer to fix if we were not able to get it off the truck and put back into the rack. We then forced all regions to have a 10 day policy of powering off a device 10 days before they remove any cabling or the device it self.

Re: InfluxDB Cloud shuts down in Belgium; some weren't notified before data deletion

#278

At AWS, the hierarchy of service priorities is crystal clear: Security, Durability, and Availability. In that order. Durability, the assurance that data will not be lost, is a cornerstone of trust, only surpassed by security. Availability, while important, can vary. Different customers have different needs. But security and durability? They're about trust. Lose that, and it's game over. In this regard, InfluxDB has u…

> Security, Durability, and Availability. In that order.

The ordering of security and durability very much depends on the needs of the customer.

Some data is vastly more valuable to malicious actors than it is to you, e.g. ephemeral private keys. If lost you can simply replace them, but if (unknowingly) stolen it can be disastrous.

Other data is vastly more valuable to your than to malicious actors, e.g. photos of sentimental events.

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