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Re: More than 75% of Steam games tested are playable or verified on the Steam Deck

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Post by theodric »

ekianjo wrote: post #206
washadjeffmad wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is the base model EMMC able to be removed to install NVMe? I was mulling over picking up either a Steam Deck or a Realforce R3 on Friday and still haven't decided. Edit: Looked it up. Yes, its storage is 100% upgradable. Edit edit: Ordered a base model + dock :)

> Is the base model EMMC able to be removed to install NVMe Yes, guide here: https://boilingsteam.com/how-to-upgrade-your-64gb-steam-deck...

The only caution I would advise is that the fan loves to jam on mine post installation of the WD. The Steam Deck will run but throttle viciously. The problem disappears with reinsertion of the stock eMMC or a little 256GB module.

The only solution I found was to simply not screw in the rear outer enclosure screws fully tight, or to replace the cover with the JSAUX unit that includes an additional heat spreader.

Re: More than 75% of Steam games tested are playable or verified on the Steam Deck

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Post by pwpw »

sspiff wrote: post #111

I bought a Steam Deck, I used it a bit but honestly not as much as I expected. I did however finally manage to dump Windows from all my machines, apart from my VR sim racing rig, and now play everything on my Linux desktop or laptop. If it doesn't run, at this point I just pick something else to play. Steam Deck has pushed the state of the art of Wine/Proton/DXVK/... so far it's mostly just a plug and play experience…

Like you, I have completely switched over to Arch Linux on my desktop and laptop apart from Windows for my VR sim racing rig. Hopefully one day I’ll be able to play iRacing from Linux, but that day is not today. Everything else has been extremely smooth.

Re: More than 75% of Steam games tested are playable or verified on the Steam Deck

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Post by mjevans »

ekianjo wrote: post #51
cynicalsecurity wrote: post #42

Which also means they are running on Linux. This is mind-blowing.

According to other sources (ProtonDB), about 80% of a much larger subset of Steam games run on Linux (some worse than others) - next milestone is 90% I guess, a couple of years down the road.

Some of those games 'require' an unofficial version of Steam's Proton which includes support for features in the underlying components that the official version can't ship.

Mostly it's an issue for video codecs in games (patents are the issue here), or games that use a less popular API. (From windows! Which has ~3 decades of APIs from multiple vendors. Let alone 10s (10-100 IDK) different ways of playing back audio or a video, or both at the same time.)

Some of the changes are simply more bleeding edge patches or game specific tweaks that are included faster than official releases include them.

Re: More than 75% of Steam games tested are playable or verified on the Steam Deck

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Post by nucleardog »

fendy3002 wrote: post #64
ekianjo wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No idea about such stats, but the ROG Ally has several problems: - Windows as the key interface - very poor battery life (even worse than the Deck!) - no trackpads so this limits what you can ever play with it to games made for gamepads - none of the SteamOS goodness

Compared with deck, no suspend continue. And I read that the button can stuck and it can get hot.

> Compared with deck, no suspend continue.

And for anyone comparing the options… go upthread and read how many people are saying this is _the_ killer feature of the Steam Deck. Because it is.

I’d been kind of on the fence how I felt about the ROG, but that makes it a solid “no” for me.

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Post by emptyfile »

the_snooze wrote: post #199
yayitswei wrote: post #182

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How do you discover good indie games to play?

Looking through Steam sales for sub-$10 titles with "Very Positive" or "Overwhelmingly Positive" reviews is a good filter. Some of my favorites over the years include Slay the Spire, Celeste, Vampire Survivors, and FTL. Edit: How can I forget the "holy trinity" of mystery indie games? Return of the Obra Dinn, Outer Wilds, and Her Story. These are brilliant games that really make you feel like a detective.

Great recommendations. I would also add Strange Horticulture and Cultist Simulator to the list.

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Post by sylware »

mariusor wrote: post #245
sylware wrote: post #48

Do you know: titles with a native elf/linux build which does not run in the official steam runtime won't be validated. Some titles are getting c++ ABI/glibc issues because if they build "outside" the steam official steam runtime they will be hit full frontal by c++ and glibc planned obsolescence (they would have to control in a fine grained way the symbols/versions they link their binaries with... feature not provide…

I mean, Steam/linux32 is the "platform" to release games on for linux. As much as I'd like to compile random game binaries on my own machine with my own glibc that's probably never going to happen.

Some devs do link their elf/linux binaries on arch elf/linux, and then have symbol version issues once running in the steam runtime. They have to link with the steam runtime and not with the arch elf/linux binaries.

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Post by Hamuko »

washadjeffmad wrote: post #228
Hamuko wrote: post #77

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I've clocked over 100 hours of playtime on mine since buying one in January. It's great. I've especially used it for reading visual novels. (Unfortunately Valve broke the per-platform playtime reporting that SteamDB had, so I can only say that I've played for at least 105 hours.)

Have you done any ie- PC-98 emulation? I've been debating whether to just host a VM dedicated to that and remote in or try running natively on the deck.

Nope, sorry.

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Post by nucleardog »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #133
Eumenes wrote: post #69

Is this supposed to challenge the switch? Personally, as a lifelong PC gamer, I've never been able to get into handheld/mobile stuff, or even consoles - its not even the screen size, but the controls and overall experience. I want to be upright in a chair, with a full keyboard + mouse in front of me. I like to use my dual screens to research stuff in downtime or check on settings/optimizations. Is this primarily used…

You can drop the Steam Deck into a dock (Steam Dock?) and have your desktop monitor, keyboard, mouse, desk-chair.... But at that point what is the point, I guess.

As someone that has probably used my deck docked at my desk more than anything…

1. Suspend and resume. If I’ve got a quick 20 minutes I can hit the button, change the input on a monitor, pick up my controller and play. No need to shut a bunch of stuff down to free up RAM, wait for the game to start, wait for a save to load, etc. And no need to worry about getting to a save point, finish a cut scene… just suspend. 2. It doesn’t heat my office up a bazillion degrees like my desktop.

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Post by irusensei »

Sometimes I find the Proton version of a game working better than native. For example Pathfinder Kingmaker which has some kind of interface bug that makes it difficulty to progress after a certain point because the kingdom management interface doesn’t work correctly. Loaded proton version, no bug and the performance is waaaaay better. Smooth gameplay.

I’m guessing here that native games are often linked to some SDL version or something similar and might not work well with a considerable newer system.

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Post by ChoGGi »

yayitswei wrote: post #182
Fire-Dragon-DoL wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are discovering indie games? You are in for a treat! I essentially play only indie games, with rare exceptions once or twice per year.

How do you discover good indie games to play?

Here and there usually, browsing steam by rating works decently.

I'll throw out a recommendation for Dave The Diver, fun little oddball game.

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