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Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by the_lucifer »

RheingoldRiver wrote: post #78

There will be a spiritual successor though, for kbin/Lemmy, called Artemis: https://kbin.social/m/ArtemisApp Right now it's in a closed beta, and the size of the closed beta is increasing slowly through the end of the month. The goal is for it to be public around the start of August. That kbin magazine has a link to a signup sheet for the closed beta. (disclosure? I was an alpha tester for it, and so far it looks AMA…

> What is Artemis using for building its user interface?

> The Artemis UI is built with React Native + Typescript

Sorry, this is DoA for me. This is not a spiritual successor. Biggest USP of Apollo was its clean, native and thoughtful UI, not cross platform UI bloatware

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by imjlu »

data-ottawa wrote: post #198
ativzzz wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the thing - what I like about reddit is that every single community is right there. I don't need to figure out a new complex system. It's a megaforum with every single subniche you can think of, without having to go to any other site or any other server I want a centralized megaforum. I don't care about federation or what technology it uses. I just want easy access to everything

For what it's worth, Lemmy and kbin are very much the v1 of the fediverse, the UIs and servers are improving quickly as they break (just like how reddit was notoriously down all the time years ago). After you sign up you don't have to care much about servers or instances, just tap "all". I don't think it will be long before someone comes into this space with a good UI and the community that reddit just marooned and t…

> just like how reddit was notoriously down all the time years ago

Heh as if it ever stopped...

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by robinsonrc »

IAmGraydon wrote: post #10

Bye, Apollo. I kind of feel like a drug has been taken away from me. It’s is going to take a bit to adjust to not using Reddit on my phone, as I refuse to use their app.

Lemmy with Wefwef (if you can get past the odd name) has gone a long way to smoothing the transition process for me

http://wefwef.app/

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by Gareth321 »

Auracle wrote: post #213
goalieca wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had totally forgotten that you had a flair showing your expertise. I did some computer vision stuff for a while. You wouldn’t recognize r/science of the early days though. Reddit is a completely different site.

r/science is now r/poorStudiesThatJustifyMyBeliefs

You aren’t kidding. Add r/Psychology to that list. It’s all bad social science studies now.

“Study Proves Republicans are Dumb”

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by bentcorner »

shagie wrote: post #230
bentcorner wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's no possible way this is the cause. Like, at all. The simple sniff test is that blast radius of the passing of this law would be way way way larger than "reddit charges for API". We'd see many other sites follow suit with reddit. IANAL but I'll put down $100 that this law has nothing to do with reddit's API changes. First person to prove me wrong gets it. I'd like a quote from spez that says, paraphrased "If V…

The announcements that they were going to charge for API access was in April. https://www.redditinc.com/blog/2023apiupdates . Mature content being restricted was mentioned in https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/12qwagm/an_update_r... and in https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/12ram0f/had_a_fe... it was stated that Imgur also banned sexually explicit uploads the same day. While "yes, that was April, the l…

> I don't believe that the change was "Virginia Law -> do all these things" but rather "these things are in motion... Virginia Law -> several of these things in motion must be done by July 1."

I do agree with you here - Virginia's mature content law probably had something to do with NSFW content in the API. The API pricing was just poor decision making occurring at the same time. (Apologies if my previous comment was a little unkind).

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by 9935c101ab17a66 »

ryanwhitney wrote: post #53

I tried Apollo early on and it was a bit too bare-bones. After all the news, I gave it another whirl for the past month and it’s very nice . After previously using the official app, it was a breath of fresh air to see a native video player, native share sheets, and so much more. Super nice, useful details like image counts on galleries. Such a shame that Reddit’s huge team is actively working in the opposite directio…

There are so many small details that make Apollo such a well designed app. I definitely started to feel the UI could use an update / polish recently, but man, the UX was unreal.

Assorted highlights:

- Share post / comment as image. When sharing comment as image, you could specify how many parent comments to include in the image as well. Super useful. - The theme change shortcut (more common now, but I think apollo was one of the first apps I noticed it in) - you could change subreddit with one tap. Narwhal doesn’t have this and it’s so annoying. - unreal in-app media playback (including YouTube) - customizable swipe gestures - great comment editor - content filters - ability to hide subreddits in just a couple of taps - saved item categories

I’m done with Reddit on mobile devices. I’m actually quite happy to have a good reason to stop using Reddit, but I’m sad that such a well-designed app has just disappeared.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by foepys »

goda90 wrote: post #28

RedReader for Android, and Dystopia for iOS were both granted exemptions to the new API pricing by Reddit due to their accessibility and non-commercial nature.

I'll give it 2 months at most until Reddit will claim that their own app is now accessible enough to shut down the other apps.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by KnobbleMcKnees »

ativzzz wrote: post #166
zmmmmm wrote: post #128

If you care about this stuff, please at least give the fediverse a try. Yes it's inadequate right now in all kinds of ways. But the main reason is that not enough people are there. It needs critical mass. Pick whatever you want - kbin, lemmy, mastodon. Go there, find your community (it will probably look very sad compared to Reddit). And contribute something positive - comment, post, whatever. If everybody just did t…

That's the thing - what I like about reddit is that every single community is right there. I don't need to figure out a new complex system. It's a megaforum with every single subniche you can think of, without having to go to any other site or any other server I want a centralized megaforum. I don't care about federation or what technology it uses. I just want easy access to everything

I can't vouch for the quality but squabbles.io has gained some traction, and likely more after today

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by zonkerdonker »

gardnr wrote: post #238
georgemcbay wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reddit never intended for anyone to pay for API access, that's why the costs were so high. The intent all along was to kill all third party apps through unreasonable pricing of API access so they could funnel users to the official app and inundate them with extremely intrusive ads. If they had presented the ridiculously high cost of API access to users it would have been more overtly user hostile. By targeting the ap…

The premium account holders don't see ads in reddit. All Reddit had to do was require premium accounts for users that wanted to use 3rd party apps. If you want to keep using yoru 3rd party app, then sign up and pay or shut up and go home. It would have been a much more logical change for everyone involved.

I think it's just a play to bump up their in-app DAU for increased IPO valuation. Fuck the users, all about the short term gains. I'm curious what the percentage of people accessing the site via the official app vs all other avenues was before all this shit
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