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How the great firewall of China detects and blocks fully encrypted traffic [pdf]

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Re: How the great firewall of China detects and blocks fully encrypted traffic [pdf]

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Post by LorenPechtel »

noduerme wrote: post #157
hinkley wrote: post #144

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In fact, the US Department of State recommends that all US citizens have a photocopy of their passport with them, when traveling abroad. Supposedly you get in shorter lines at the consulate if you have at least a photocopy of your passport available. You should be able to petition the consulate of your home country to issue you a new passport. I think it may be illegal, but I've heard from people who travel to places…

Anyone that says you should keep your passport on you when you're in a foreign country has never traveled. I never keep my passport on my person when I'm walking around outside the US. I lock it away as securely as I can wherever I'm staying, and carry a color copy of it in my pocket. Part of this is simply because American passports are extremely valuable. Another part is that anyone who wants to fuck with you in so…

The most secure place to keep it is on your person *under* your clothing. Waterproof protection would be a good idea if you're in a warm climate.

It most certainly can be done--I wore mine basically 24/7 for a year. The only time it wasn't under my clothing was for border crossing or bathing--and in the latter case it almost always was under a traveling companion's clothing. No close calls--but someone else in the group wasn't so cautious and hers was snatched. Fortunately, the thief wasn't sophisticated, kept the cash and dumped everything else quickly.

Re: How the great firewall of China detects and blocks fully encrypted traffic [pdf]

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Post by LorenPechtel »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #80
FaultBit wrote: post #24

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A lot of people actually use VPNs in China (since 2010 even), and some of them call it "加速器" which basically means "booster" (for your internet). Some use it for lower latencies when playing foreign games. The issue is that VPN connections get easily blocked. We aren't really worried about legal issues. Except for that one time when police (of a certain district, not everywhere in China) knocked on people's doors to…

Surely Xinjiang has stricter rules and more aggressive enforcement than the other provinces/regions? They always put a hardliner in as party head.

This. I don't worry about generating illicit traffic in China--but there's no way I'm going to Xinjiang. If I had to go there I would stay off the internet entirely.

Re: How the great firewall of China detects and blocks fully encrypted traffic [pdf]

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Post by noduerme »

pdntspa wrote: post #251
noduerme wrote: post #145

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If you're an American and you rent an apartment, the local police keep your passport until you leave. You keep a xerox. That's how it was at the time. I don't know if that's still the case. I didn't feel good about it when I found out (actually, the moment I signed the lease), but there was nothing I could do about it. My exit from Vietnam was almost humorous. I had about 50 DVDs in my suitcase, mostly encrypted back…

So how do you travel outside the country then, if the police are holding your passport?

You need to request it from the police for travel. In my experience, I did it via my landlord, and it took about a day.

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Post by LorenPechtel »

mushbino wrote: post #264
mannerheim wrote: post #165

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Just be prepared to spend a year or two in prison if relations between your country and China worsen and they need a hostage.

Like the executive from Huawei who was imprisoned in Canada

s/Huawei/Chinese State Security/

She was a spy--look at how intense their reaction was.

Unfortunately, they tend to grab innocents to exchange for captured spies. However, they're going to go for big fish, not little ones. As an average joe I'm not concerned about being held for a spy swap, but if I were a highly placed executive there's no way I would set foot in China.

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Post by noduerme »

evilos wrote: post #258
noduerme wrote: post #145

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If you're an American and you rent an apartment, the local police keep your passport until you leave. You keep a xerox. That's how it was at the time. I don't know if that's still the case. I didn't feel good about it when I found out (actually, the moment I signed the lease), but there was nothing I could do about it. My exit from Vietnam was almost humorous. I had about 50 DVDs in my suitcase, mostly encrypted back…

They took your DVDs? On what pretext? Did you get them back?

The pretext was piracy, since some of them were labeled with the names of movies. I protested they should just keep those ones, but they took them all and said I was lucky they weren't going to prosecute me. I didn't even try to get them back.

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Post by mannerheim »

LorenPechtel wrote: post #274
mushbino wrote: post #264

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like the executive from Huawei who was imprisoned in Canada

s/Huawei/Chinese State Security/ She was a spy--look at how intense their reaction was. Unfortunately, they tend to grab innocents to exchange for captured spies. However, they're going to go for big fish, not little ones. As an average joe I'm not concerned about being held for a spy swap, but if I were a highly placed executive there's no way I would set foot in China.

It's time for the West to stop playing around and allowing this sort of hostage taking. If China and Russia want to play dirty, play dirty back. They take a hostage, start taking their nationals hostage and plant large quantities of fentanyl on them.

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Post by dirtyid »

LorenPechtel wrote: post #274
mushbino wrote: post #264

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Like the executive from Huawei who was imprisoned in Canada

s/Huawei/Chinese State Security/ She was a spy--look at how intense their reaction was. Unfortunately, they tend to grab innocents to exchange for captured spies. However, they're going to go for big fish, not little ones. As an average joe I'm not concerned about being held for a spy swap, but if I were a highly placed executive there's no way I would set foot in China.

Meng was PRC royalty - the daughter of Huawei's president, imagine a literal billionaire being a spy. She was taken hostage under Pence's China Initative for Iranian sanctions shenanigans that historically was dealt via fines. The initiative explicitly called for targetting PRC nationals.

Hence intense reaction. The 2 Canadian Michaels on the other hand, were text book spys with NGO covers. Western propaganda likes insinuate PRC would capture innocent westerners when state security have massive state survillance capability that completely dismantled CIA networks a few years prior. Like literally friend of Michael hinted he was in "intelligence" and CSIS (Canadian CIA) publically celebrated on twitter upon their return. The Michaels weren't executives. The TLDR, while in PRC, don't traffic drugs, don't be a spy/do anti state activities, don't get involved in expensive legal proceedings - the latter is what actually get (white) westerners in trouble via exit bans.

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Post by vGPU »

jareklupinski wrote: post #190
KptMarchewa wrote: post #181

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We can look at russia arresting random foreign nationals for bullshit reasons right now.

https://www.nytimes.com/article/brittney-griner-russia.html

“Young tourist is now facing death by firing squad in Bali after cocaine was found in her luggage: Here are the Indonesian rules everyone needs to know”

This is a headline from this year.

It turns out that when you break the law in other countries, you might get punished for it.

Who could have possibly expected that, right?

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Post by ImPostingOnHN »

jxramos wrote: post #261
jdkee wrote: post #239

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Wrong. See https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/documents/atrocity-...

Interesting, so I think you're trying to draw attention to Article II yes? """ Article II In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: (a) Killing members of the group; (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditi…

you seem interested in the history of the term, it seems like it would behoove you to continue researching such history until you get to the point where said history explains how the term is currently, commonly used, e.g. to refer to cultural genocide, for example the cultural genocide china is perpetrating on Uighur Muslims in Xinjiang

Re: How the great firewall of China detects and blocks fully encrypted traffic [pdf]

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Post by mushbino »

LorenPechtel wrote: post #274
mushbino wrote: post #264

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like the executive from Huawei who was imprisoned in Canada

s/Huawei/Chinese State Security/ She was a spy--look at how intense their reaction was. Unfortunately, they tend to grab innocents to exchange for captured spies. However, they're going to go for big fish, not little ones. As an average joe I'm not concerned about being held for a spy swap, but if I were a highly placed executive there's no way I would set foot in China.

Do you have any proof she was a spy? She absolutely was not. An extremely high ranking executive of one of the largest technology companies on earth would be literally the worst possible choice for a spy.
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