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Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by pndy »

frob wrote: post #4

Windows is just full of hostile, anti-user patterns these days. I've considered building a windows box just to have a gaming rig multiple times over the last few years, but every time an article like this or their crusade against Chrome reminds me that Bill Gates is still the same anti-trust monster he was in the 90s.

> Windows is just full of hostile, anti-user patterns these days.

I wonder since the initial "free" W10 upgrade, where the hell are the regulators? The browser selection window happen these years ago and seems they call job well done both for themselves and MS.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by marcosdumay »

ExoticPearTree wrote: post #148
frob wrote: post #4

Windows is just full of hostile, anti-user patterns these days. I've considered building a windows box just to have a gaming rig multiple times over the last few years, but every time an article like this or their crusade against Chrome reminds me that Bill Gates is still the same anti-trust monster he was in the 90s.

It feels like we're back in the '90s during the browser wars: our website only works with IE.

You seem to have lost the memo.

We have standards wars, a stale browser that just woke-up and became a bit less stale (but no promises for the future), anticompetitive practices all around. We are right inside a browser war.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by OJFord »

buro9 wrote: post #229
acomjean wrote: post #89

Its getting worse everywhere: some things I've noticed: Mobil Safari seems to be using the search bar to hijack my google search (Particularly for locations which open in apple maps) Although I'm mostly linux these days I went to install an alternative browser on a windows machine (using edge to download). I mentioned this in another post, but edge seems to watch for "chrome" or "firefox" downloads and politely remin…

WSL2 in Windows means you can just run a Debian underneath and launch a non-snap Firefox from there and have it appears in Windows. Now you get the benefit of Windows power management (and that beautiful laptop battery life) but a web browser Microsoft isn't going to mess with. This sounds hilarious were it not the way I actually work. PS: I'll also mention that VSCode from Windows to WSL2 + Debian is a mind-blowingl…

How are you supposed to discover and use WSL?

I got fed up with trying to run Fusion360 on Linux, no longer had a Mac, and reignited my long disused Windows installation recently. Updated and restarted. Looked around for WSL, nothing. Searched online, loads of blog spam of mixed helpfulness, no way of telling (for me, new to it) if they were v1 or v2, no basic information like they're talking about Ubuntu but is that a requirement? What changes if I want x? Looked in the app store, ..stuff yes, including 'Arch WSL' for example, but is this right? It seems to work, but really, I'm supposed to install something third-party?

I assumed it was just something that was there built-in by default, but apparently not? Probably is if I first go start run regedit and set Computer Computer Windows HKLM Software Windows Windows Linux Software WSL enable to '2', right? Easy.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by pndy »

userbinator wrote: post #10

Microsoft is always striving to improve and streamline our product experiences—offering a new way to use the classic Microsoft Outlook app on Windows and the Microsoft Edge web browser. to help you stay engaged in conversations as you browse the web. I wonder if the people who write this sort of BS-filled prose really believe in what they're writing. To be completely honest, the style almost sounds like LLM output.

Some 10-15 years ago I would consider that some people have to write in such way but they really don't believe in all that bullcrap. But nowadays? There's lots of people who got their brains eaten by this corporate newspeak, and they spill it even into FOSS.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by hinkley »

ho_schi wrote: post #108
frob wrote: post #4

Windows is just full of hostile, anti-user patterns these days. I've considered building a windows box just to have a gaming rig multiple times over the last few years, but every time an article like this or their crusade against Chrome reminds me that Bill Gates is still the same anti-trust monster he was in the 90s.

Dear European-Union! How about enforcing direct control about Microsoft business? Not just another “low” fine in the ten to twenty billion range. Just stopping Microsoft, Apple, Google, Facebook and Amazon. Enforcing AT&T to not enter any new business worked well. In consequence we got UNIX, C, open-source and documentation and finally the TCP/IP-stack of BSD, GNU and Linux. This had a positive effect for the complet…

I’d be good with exponentially increasing fines that don’t reset after each repeat occurrence. Sort of a contempt of court sentiment.

Microsoft already lost this case twenty years ago? Repeat offenders do not get the mercy of the courts.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by marcosdumay »

vladvasiliu wrote: post #51
mikepurvis wrote: post #37

Google does something like this with the GMail app on iPhone— you click links and instead of just opening Safari, it pops up a "which browser to use" selector modal, which is really just an advertisement for you to install Chrome.

Ditto for Google Maps. The choices, in order, are: - Chrome - Google (?) - Safari - Default browser app I don't know what "google" is, but I don't even have chrome installed. If I click it, it sends me to the app store.

> I don't know what "google" is

It's a bare-minimum version of chromium that comes with Android. It's not chrome either.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by noSyncCloud »

OJFord wrote: post #273
buro9 wrote: post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

WSL2 in Windows means you can just run a Debian underneath and launch a non-snap Firefox from there and have it appears in Windows. Now you get the benefit of Windows power management (and that beautiful laptop battery life) but a web browser Microsoft isn't going to mess with. This sounds hilarious were it not the way I actually work. PS: I'll also mention that VSCode from Windows to WSL2 + Debian is a mind-blowingl…

How are you supposed to discover and use WSL? I got fed up with trying to run Fusion360 on Linux, no longer had a Mac, and reignited my long disused Windows installation recently. Updated and restarted. Looked around for WSL, nothing. Searched online, loads of blog spam of mixed helpfulness, no way of telling (for me, new to it) if they were v1 or v2, no basic information like they're talking about Ubuntu but is that…

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by marcosdumay »

hospitalJail wrote: post #120
gabereiser wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You never had control over windows. Not since the ME/XP days. You don’t have control over MacOS either. The only OS you have any control over is Linux and even some of those you don’t.

I suppose there was enough freedom from 95-XP, it didn't matter that much. I never had an issue perfectly customizing my experience. Today I can't get rid of ads/news/cortana/edge.

XP was the version that started pushing updates despite whatever you would configure and deny executing if you didn't jump through the correct hops.

You still had some amount of control on 95. MS had the power to take your control away at any point, but they didn't at that time.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by [deleted] »

noSyncCloud wrote: post #277
OJFord wrote: post #273

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How are you supposed to discover and use WSL? I got fed up with trying to run Fusion360 on Linux, no longer had a Mac, and reignited my long disused Windows installation recently. Updated and restarted. Looked around for WSL, nothing. Searched online, loads of blog spam of mixed helpfulness, no way of telling (for me, new to it) if they were v1 or v2, no basic information like they're talking about Ubuntu but is that…

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install

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Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by pluijzer »

rjh29 wrote: post #147
darreninthenet wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's the thing... I have limited time for gaming and when I want to play I just want to sit down and play. My days of sodding about with (the equivalent of) autoexec.bat, config.sys, QEMM configurations, drivers and IRQ allocations are way way behind me for one when one of these combos of drivers and scripts doesn't work, or my game isn't supported, and I just want to spend a hour or two gaming to chill out.

Steam on Linux is like that 99% of the time. Download the game and play it.

I really want to second this.

All games I want to play these days work under Linux without effort. Older titles work even better where under Windows you could run into compatibility issues not so under Linux because of the great effort put on backward compatibility by Wine.

Also, a bit susprising and unfortunate, the Windows version of a game that has native Linux support often runs better.

I run Manjaro Linux and have an Nvidia GPU for if it matters. My Steam games I run with Steam and for the games I bought on GOG I use Lutris.

I would really suggest people to check out how far it has come.

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