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Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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Re: Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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I’m kinda curious - why microwave popcorn when an air popper or stove top is so stinkin’ easy? Makes great popcorn and you can control the flavorings

There are people buying pre sliced apples and pre peeled clementines out there

Re: Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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Best popcorn you can make is cheap and easy cleanup. Take one large pot (the kind that holds like 10qts). Cover the bottom with kernels. Add a bit of oil, basically just enough to swirl and have everything covered in an oil sheen, not enough to have them submerged. Cover, put on high (I use gas). I like to suspend a paper towel between the lid and the rest of the pot, absorbs excess oil and water. Once popping slows,…

My only recommendation/advice is to use a thick bottom wok or pot. A wok allows the already popped popcorn to move away from the heat source.

Thick bottom pots also reduce burning. Use a vented lid so steam can escape which prevents soggy popcorn.

Re: Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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"The dose makes the poison." Yes it does and it all adds up. So why would I add more things, that are poisenous even at small doses, when I can easily avoid it?

> Yes it does and it all adds up. No, it doesn't, because sodium ferrocyanide is poorly absorbed in the first place and not bioaccumulative in humans. I suppose you also don't each spinach or almonds either?

"spinach" nope and of almonds not too many either.

But my point is, sodium ferrocyanide intake is not beneficial, (unlike ordinary sodium). Even if it might do no harm, why should I risk even little harm?

And with adding up, well there is a whole libary of other toxic or potentially toxic additives in the normal food you can buy. I prefer to minimize the potential bad intake, that's all.

Re: Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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Best popcorn you can make is cheap and easy cleanup. Take one large pot (the kind that holds like 10qts). Cover the bottom with kernels. Add a bit of oil, basically just enough to swirl and have everything covered in an oil sheen, not enough to have them submerged. Cover, put on high (I use gas). I like to suspend a paper towel between the lid and the rest of the pot, absorbs excess oil and water. Once popping slows,…

If you have time, or have pre-made it, using clarified butter results in a better final product. I keep some in the fridge all the time. Ghee would probably work similarly, but I have never tried it.

Unless there’s a comment more pedantic than mine disproving this, ghee IS clarified butter.

Re: Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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Out of interest, why do you prefer a salt grinder? I've never understood why these exist. Pepper grinders, absolutely - the aromatics are released on grinding. By not so with salt. Curious if I'm missing something.

I've asked my mother the exact same question a couple of weeks ago. She said, that as salt is hygroscopic "table salt" comes with anti-cacking agents. Salt which comes as larger crystals doesn't need them.

That’s not enough to justify the grinder. Buy a box of Diamond Crystal Kosher salt. It has the perfect texture for keeping in a salter on the counter so it’s easy to grab a pinch.

Re: Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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Best popcorn you can make is cheap and easy cleanup. Take one large pot (the kind that holds like 10qts). Cover the bottom with kernels. Add a bit of oil, basically just enough to swirl and have everything covered in an oil sheen, not enough to have them submerged. Cover, put on high (I use gas). I like to suspend a paper towel between the lid and the rest of the pot, absorbs excess oil and water. Once popping slows,…

My household follows this method, though we find high heat, while extremely efficient, frequently results in chewy output.

In my experiments heating the pan and oil to a medium-high temperature, just before smoking, with 3-4 test kernels preloaded allows them to generate an alert by their popping, signalling the optimal time for addition of the rest of the kernel package.

Re: Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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wait, how can you differentiate the unpopped from the yet to pop? (tbh. so far I'm just a premade popcorn buyer, so ELI5...)

Ignore the snark from the sibling comments. You have to study the grain. Most kernels have a left to right grain, and they will pop between 140-150C, because the cell structure of the skin is weak in several places. A relatively rare genetic mutation leads to around 1-2% of kernels having a right to left grain, and because of this orientation the skin is actually more robust in the typical popping spots, meaning that…

I want to believe, but I don't have a UV light handy to verify this.

Re: Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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PFAS 'forever chemicals' cost society €16 trillion a year https://euobserver.com/green-economy/157075

This is absurd. The GDP of the entire world is on the order of ~$100T. How can this article claim that 15% of all GDP is spent/lost due to PFAS without going through absurd calculations like how long it would take to remove every bit of it from water supplies using current inefficient methods? (Obv I'm not paying for a euobserver subscription)

This page contains the figures / calculations (first link in the euobserver's article).

https://chemsec.org/reports/the-top-12-pfas-producers-in-the...

The top 12 PFAS producers in the world and the staggering societal costs of PFAS pollution

Only twelve companies account for a majority of the PFAS production in the world. PFAS production is hardly profitable, but the cost for society is massive.

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