The tradeoff for sealed batteries was significantly improved ingress protection, larger charge capacity, and lighter weight. The market spoke and nobody seems to really care that much about user replaceable batteries except a vocal minority.
European Union votes to bring back replaceable phone batteries
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#272If Apple doesn't like it, they can piss off back to California and give up 250 million iPhone users to Android.
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Kyocera has been doing it for years.
https://fdn2.mobgsm.com/vv/pics/kyocera/kyocera-duraforce-pr... I don't want my phone to look like that by law.
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Pretty sure the iPhone 14 already satisfies this requirement
Only the 14 though IIRC. The 14 Pro is just like the old ones and is one the most complex phones to perform a repair on.
Two screws and a plunger get you access to both an easily replaceable screen and the battery. Really is an astonishing design.
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#275The problem is not really the battery anymore, it's the software mainly. It's all closed source and is often deprecated before the hardware is dead. Then the manufacturer makes it hard to unlock bootloaders; keeps drivers closed source and effectively bricks the device. For recurring sales are the backbone of modern economy so we must force obsolescence. Why would you want to replace a battery in a useless device? Pl…
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> Please, EU: bring a law that forces manufacturers to release their drivers / firmware whenever they stop updating a digital device. I wish I could upvote this more. It's a crime how I had to throw away in the past perfectly usable devices because they were forced into obsolescence.
I don't see how this would work given modern supply chains. It can be extremely difficult to track down all of the owners of a particular IP and when you do, many of them may not even exist any longer making it near impossible to get any sort of permission to do something like this.
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Used iPhone XSs are selling for <2/3 the price of new old stock (NOS). Why did you shift from one item to the other in the middle of your comment?
at the same price, i'd rather have new old stock than one that's been through god-knows-what plus open heart surgery. not sure where you're getting your prices, but it doesn't matter. the fact that this is even a point of contention indicates that swappable batteries would make a difference.
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Huh, really? I use my cell phone in the rain, I use my cell phone in the shower. I drop it in the mud and rinse it off in the sink. Waterproof is a top-tier feature, right up there with "not exploding the screen into a thousand shards when I drop it".
Well, when I shower I shower, I'm not distracted by a phone, and few drops of water under the rain have never done anything to any of my phones. Might be a top-tier feature for you, but it never made any difference to me.
I also like to go hiking and camping a good bit. I've lost a few electronic devices from getting caught in a storm. Its nice having the peace of mind that it doesn't matter if I get completely soaked with my phone in my pocket.
Finally, I have kids, and they're of the stage where its fun to throw things in toilets and in sinks.
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If the owners/companies no longer exist, then I would think the IP should be free by default. Perhaps that's another law to work on...
In 2010 you start a company, wholly owned by you. In 2011 you obtain a patent wholly owned by the company. In 2012 you fail to pay the franchise tax and filing paperwork for your company so the state dissolves it. You don't care because you aren't making money. In 2013 another company starts making a product that infringes on your patent. You are the defacto owner of the patent. This is because you were the owner of…
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> I don't think replaceable batteries or USB-C requirements restrict the industries ability to move forward. These ultra thin foldable phones probably couldn’t exist with removable batteries. The thinness required to make it comfortable to use would be hard and so would the structural integrity with a removable backplate. It would absolutely restrict durability since it’d make waterproof and dustproofing way more cha…
> Removable backs would limit wireless charging hardware like apples MagSafe (which is great!). I had a phone with a removable back and wireless charging back in 2012. This isn't rocket science.