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Re: What Reddit Got Wrong

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Post by TheNewsIsHere »

samtho wrote: post #234
TheNewsIsHere wrote: post #163

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I think #3 is closest to the mark, but I don’t think it’s caged to young adults. For example, if you were to look anywhere on Reddit and found yourself in a thread that just barely, tangentially, almost-not-in-this-plane-of-reality touches on something related to law, a hundred people will show up to give you all sorts of the most inane and dangerous legal advice. Granted, for something like legal advice you: 1) shou…

> Granted, for something like legal advice you: 1) shouldn’t go Reddit; and 2) should search for an attorney. Counterpoint, not everyone has access to an attorney, a mechanic, a doctor (sadly), tradesperson, or any number of expensive professionals when someone just needs to know if they can ignore something, can fix it themself, or if they should seek out professional advice. These communities can be of great help t…

Wholeheartedly agreed.

Re: What Reddit Got Wrong

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Post by wasyl »

satvikpendem wrote: post #76
ilyt wrote: post #62

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They could just charge $2 for "API access with enough limits for power users" and pay both for missing ads and for API usage

That's exactly what they are doing with the API lol, but people still got outraged at that. The Apollo dev said that he would have to charge every user $2.50 a month to cover costs of the API, so even if the Apollo dev is exaggerating, $2.50 is not that high if people really want to user third party apps.

> The Apollo dev said that he would have to charge every user $2.50 a month to cover costs of the API

He did not say that, he said

> Apollo's price would be approximately $2.50 per month per user

which is an estimate of how much they'd have to pay Reddit for each user in API costs alone. But it doesn't take into account cost of Apollo's own servers and infrastructure, Apple's fees, or the fact that there are people with paid for yearly subscriptions that'd have to be served:

> Even if I added 12,000 new subscribers at $5/month (an enormous feat given the short notice), after Apple's fees that would just be enough to break even. > > Going from a free API for 8 years to suddenly incurring massive costs is not something I can feasibly make work with only 30 days. That's a lot of users to migrate, plans to create, things to test, and to get through app review, and it's just not economically feasible.

(quoted from https://old.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/144f6xm/apollo_w...)

All in all it's a much different thing if Reddit said they want to charge the users $2.5/mo for API access, given them their own key and let use whatever 3rd party app they want. They want to charge the 3rd party apps directly, which is a whole different story that can't really be summed up as to "$2.5 is not that high if people really want to use third party apps"

Re: What Reddit Got Wrong

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Post by swarnie »

Seattle3503 wrote: post #267
swarnie wrote: post #88

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Reddit hasn't been hands off for about 6-7 years.... A lot of the hate, racism and legally ambiguous stuff left years ago for better or worse. Kind of unhappy they left a lot of the degen fetish stuff though, that's the thing stopping me admitting to using the service in public. Now they have the lowest value user data of any social media company and are firing people from jobs they do for free (lol) to get the site…

What degen stuff are you referencing. I found reddit allowed me to explore my sexuality and discover new things about myself. I'm glad it was never very judgemental about people's sexuality.

I'm not going to rattle off the whole gross list but two which float to the top are all the MAP and Furry subs.

Now if children and animals are your bag of chips all power to you, its just not a website ill admit to using or potentially invest in if an IPO happened.

Re: What Reddit Got Wrong

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Post by satvikpendem »

wasyl wrote: post #272
satvikpendem wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's exactly what they are doing with the API lol, but people still got outraged at that. The Apollo dev said that he would have to charge every user $2.50 a month to cover costs of the API, so even if the Apollo dev is exaggerating, $2.50 is not that high if people really want to user third party apps.

> The Apollo dev said that he would have to charge every user $2.50 a month to cover costs of the API He did not say that, he said > Apollo's price would be approximately $2.50 per month per user which is an estimate of how much they'd have to pay Reddit for each user in API costs alone. But it doesn't take into account cost of Apollo's own servers and infrastructure, Apple's fees, or the fact that there are people w…

Reddit is allowing any user to have their own API key is they so choose, not just third party devs. If the devs want to make a new version that only works with a paid API key, they could. Perhaps not in 30 days which I agree is a tough deadline, but they could.

Re: What Reddit Got Wrong

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Post by fnord77 »

Their claim that reddit got it right by using community/volunteer moderation really doesn't take into account the fact that the moderators in some communities are actually employees of some interest group who want to influence things.

The moderators of some of the political subs work for certain parties or political groups and it is blatantly obvious.

Re: What Reddit Got Wrong

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Post by fnord77 »

shmatt wrote: post #8

I never understand why Reddit is credited to the "free community based moderation" idea Facebook does this at much larger scale (2B users active in FB Groups), with way more spam, and some FB groups are much larger than most big subreddits Its not about Facebook or Reddit, its about people being so power hungry they do these things for free. When subreddits post about bringing in more mods, thousands apply, maybe 2 g…

"its about people being so power hungry they do these things for free."

Or they work for 3rd party groups who have an agenda they want to push

Re: What Reddit Got Wrong

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Post by transcriptase »

aryan14 wrote: post #105
z3c0 wrote: post #67

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> Each one garnered the same hundreds of upvotes as the original What's sad is how many of those aren't bots. It's not uncommon for karma farmers to have their bots upvote each other, but it isn't cost effective to have hundreds (a 1 year old reddit account can run you approx $10 for 1000 post karma). The sad reality is that of those hundreds of upvotes, almost all represent a person who fell for it. As the saying go…

> (a 1 year old reddit account can run you approx $10 for 1000 post karma). Someone who bought a reddit account here, I bought a 2 year old aged account with around 3000 post karma for $10. The karma has lost its value.

Without judging and out of pure curiosity, can I ask why?

Re: What Reddit Got Wrong

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Post by hinkley »

jarcoal wrote: post #73

What went wrong is that after being divested from Condé Nast, reddit went and raised a huge round that ensured they would have to go down the route of synthetic growth tactics. This whole operation could be wildly profitable with a team of 50-100 people and no major investors to appease. Instead they read the room wrong, or just didn't care, and now we're here.

Space Balls:

This isn't about money...

This is about a shitload of money!

Re: What Reddit Got Wrong

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Post by hinkley »

tmpz22 wrote: post #148
jarcoal wrote: post #73

What went wrong is that after being divested from Condé Nast, reddit went and raised a huge round that ensured they would have to go down the route of synthetic growth tactics. This whole operation could be wildly profitable with a team of 50-100 people and no major investors to appease. Instead they read the room wrong, or just didn't care, and now we're here.

> Instead they read the room wrong, or just didn't care, and now we're here. And a couple people at the top now have Lake Tahoe vacation homes. That's an important piece to this. It justifies everything.

Or Olympic-sized swimming pools.

Did Lars Ulrich ever get his Olympic-sized swimming pool? You really gotta feel for the guy.

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