Does this include pre-sale statements or finalized deliveries only? It is one thing to have a high number of corporate pre-order it is quite another to have cars on the road.
Sales are only accounted on delivery, that is when title is transferred.
Tesla Model Y overtakes Corolla to be world’s best-selling car in 2023
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#272Any speculation why model Y is selling better than model 3?
The trunk opening on the 3 is very small compared to Y
The moment you own both a 3 and one of those enormous SUV-like baby strollers, you get rid of the 3 and get something else. A Y if you liked your 3, or probably a van if not.
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#273Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tesla is first and foremost a technology company. Top notch tech, second-rate car. Toyota is first and foremost a car company. Top notch car, fifth-rate tech.
Toyota recently disassembled a model Y to study it and this is what their executives said: "Taking the skin off the Model Y, it was truly a work of art. It's unbelievable," "It's a whole different manufacturing philosophy," while another added, “We need a new platform designed as a blank-sheet EV."
Would love to read the source for this, do you have any links?
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Maybe because BMW customers still prefer combustion engines.
It depends on the market. BMW doesn’t sell much ICE cars anymore in Norway, a western market considered a few years ahead the other north European markets.
Because Norway heavily subsidized EV with exemption from the 25% VAT tax as well as perks like free parking. Which is ironic given they are basically the Nordic Saudi Arabia.
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#275I’m really surprised about this. I live in the capital city of an European country (~50M people) and I don’t think I’ve seen even one, maybe it’s not sold here? I see a fair number of model 3 and a few S, though.
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yeah of course. because as we all know, accidents are the only indicator of bad driving
It seems like they would be a reliable indicator of bad driving, and moreover, the primary one.
If you're being cut off or they are not using their indicators or if they park in your lane or they drive really close behind you or they use too much space when turning a corner or they simply don't see you because they're looking left rather than right or they are using their mobile device or they take your right of way or they change lanes without looking...
they are bad drivers without accidents because everyone else is watching out for them.
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#277Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tesla is first and foremost a technology company. Top notch tech, second-rate car. Toyota is first and foremost a car company. Top notch car, fifth-rate tech.
Toyota recently disassembled a model Y to study it and this is what their executives said: "Taking the skin off the Model Y, it was truly a work of art. It's unbelievable," "It's a whole different manufacturing philosophy," while another added, “We need a new platform designed as a blank-sheet EV."
And yet they seem to have massive issues
https://www.thedrive.com/news/44068/over-10-percent-of-tesla...
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Does it matter to BMW?
I think the point is that electric cars the digital cameras of today. Consumers are shifting to EVs faster than expected, and it is catching some car makers (e.g. Toyota) flat footed.
> I think the point is that electric cars the digital cameras of today.
Enjoyed a brief heyday but rapidly faded as people moved on to a more convenient device?
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They had a 10 year head start on EVs (well, Hybrids), with the Prius and blew it. Worse: https://arstechnica.com/cars/2021/07/toyota-bet-wrong-on-evs...
the Prius prime is a legitimately pretty great hybrid, but it took them a shocking long time to get there.
The ability to go fast does not make it a good cars. In fact, this is mistake that many US carmakers made. As Toyota focused on reliability, their faster competitors ultimately ended up being abandoned since nothing turns away customers like a dead car.
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Out of curiosity, what did you prefer about the Tesla over the Polestar?
The minimalist cabin is the obvious one: it's more spacious and feels much more spacious thanks to the glass roof. I did have severe doubts about the touchscreen and lack of controls, but in practice this has been a non-issue, there are tactile controls for everything you need to actually drive and voice controls for everything you don't (climate, music, etc). The glove box is just stupid though.
feels much more spacious thanks to the glass roof.
My Polestar 2 has a glass roof too. I think it's part of the "plus" pack?