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Re: Google Pixel Fold

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Post by imron »

coconut08 wrote: post #198
imron wrote: post #156

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I don't want a crease in my screen, which I've seen on every single one of these used for any length of time.

as a person who has daily driven a fold for almost 2 years the "crease" is a complete non-problem when you are using it. its mostly just people who havent actually used it that complain about it because they heard some influencer complaining about it or they saw a picture someone took of it with a studio light blasting down on it at the perfect angle.

Nothing to do with "influencers", but yes I haven't really used it. My opinion was formed from watching other people's phones who have this and deciding I don't like it, and I'm not prepared to change phones to give it a try on the off chance that I mind not find it an issue.

Re: Google Pixel Fold

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Post by itsyaboi »

rtpg wrote: post #266
j45 wrote: post #261

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Only charge up to 80% battery unless you need the full charge and the battery generally lasts much longer

Is there a place that has empirical data on this stuff? Like what battery factoids are still true with the latest devices or not? I would honestly love for phone manufacturers to outright build in some software to build in best practices if they actually exist. Don't let me charge to 100% at first or something!

Get into the quadcopter hobbyspace, you will learn more than you ever wanted about battery chemistries.

Re: Google Pixel Fold

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Post by User23 »

r00fus wrote: post #59
xnyanta wrote: post #44

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I'm posting this from my Galaxy Z Fold 3. I'm not particularly wealthy or a frequent traveler. I bought this phone used for 750 bucks in Canada and my main use case for the screen real-estate is reading manga on it, which it excels at. It also then serves as a phone and a media in bed machine. It is fragile and I take good care of it but it is absolutely the most innovative and exciting phone I've had the pleasure of…

I think you hit on something here - if you can get it for 750 (in any currency) it becomes interesting. If it's nearly 2k, it's a plaything for the rich that's both fragile and may have issues that are likely to be poorly supported by the vendor.

Lots of great technology like indoor plumbing and electric lighting started as playthings for the rich. Early adopters serve a useful purpose for everyone.

Re: Google Pixel Fold

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Post by caddemon »

mlyle wrote: post #140
r00fus wrote: post #59

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I think you hit on something here - if you can get it for 750 (in any currency) it becomes interesting. If it's nearly 2k, it's a plaything for the rich that's both fragile and may have issues that are likely to be poorly supported by the vendor.

Early adopters always have this experience: expensive products, with issues preventing mass-adoption, with uncertain vendor support in the long term. I'm not sure whether foldable phones will become what everyone uses, but this is typical for new products that have not started zipping up the S curve.

Dunno if they'll become ubiquitous, but I think various foldable forms will at least stick around as a viable market segment. Most early-ish adopters I know from the zFold and zFlip 3 generation are planning to get another when it's time to upgrade. Granted that's a biased sample of like 5% of the people I know IRL, but still it's not too common to see that much agreement after a year+ of use for a product that's just a gimmick.

Re: Google Pixel Fold

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Post by pfannkuchen »

brookst wrote: post #177
dr_kiszonka wrote: post #167

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My interpretation of this article and the original press release is that the screens are supposed to last at least 200k folds.

If it's 0% failure at 200k folds, that means the 200k is about six standard deviations away from the mean, so I think (statistics gurus please correct) that says the average device will last for 1.7m folds.

Is it valid to assume a normal distribution here?

Re: Google Pixel Fold

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Post by lmm »

atourgates wrote: post #21
manningthegoose wrote: post #9

I just don't understand who wants these foldable phones, especially at the $1799 price point. I guess a use case is wealthy frequent travelers who don't want a separate device with a larger screen to watch movies/videos on the go? Someone help me out here.

It's more than the price of a nice smartphone, and a nice tablet. An iPhone 14 and iPad Pro are gonna' run you $1,600, and be more useful in most cases. I mean, sure, you're not going to fit an iPad in your pocket, but do you really need to? And when it's out, it's more productive to have a separate tablet and phone, than just one device that's trying to do it all. Folding phones are a neat idea, and as a technical a…

> And when it's out, it's more productive to have a separate tablet and phone, than just one device that's trying to do it all.

Not convinced. Having to move back and forth between two devices is a pain. Just like how a powerful laptop with a docking station is much nicer than a cheap laptop and a desktop, even if the former costs more.

Re: Google Pixel Fold

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Post by Thorrez »

echelon wrote: post #158
ianbutler wrote: post #117

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I'm never going back. I only type and respond to things unfolded, I have big hands and the split keyboard + bigger buttons are great. Outside of that I'm a fairly big reader and I enjoy reading both articles and books unfolded and have no interest in bringing a second device to do so. I also write notes with stylus on it which is practical unfolded. More real estate for video etc. And then I can just fold it and use…

That sounds nice, but I want the same foldable form factor for entirely opposite reasons. I want a rough, minimalistic foldable like the old school Razr. Something that can take abuse. I want to be able to flick it open and close with the snap of my wrist and stuff the folded form factor back into my pocket without worry. I don't care if there's no screen covering the bezel. That'd make it less durable anyway. Two sc…

Have you seen the new Razr? https://www.amazon.com/Motorola-RAZR-Phone/s?k=Motorola+RAZR...

Re: Google Pixel Fold

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Post by caddemon »

danwee wrote: post #23
atourgates wrote: post #21

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It's more than the price of a nice smartphone, and a nice tablet. An iPhone 14 and iPad Pro are gonna' run you $1,600, and be more useful in most cases. I mean, sure, you're not going to fit an iPad in your pocket, but do you really need to? And when it's out, it's more productive to have a separate tablet and phone, than just one device that's trying to do it all. Folding phones are a neat idea, and as a technical a…

> Folding phones are a neat idea, and as a technical achievement, this is impressive. But in terms of price and practicality? I don't really see the appeal or value. I thought that was the consensus... It surprises me that Google is investing money on such a device. Weird.

The price is not going to be that high in 5 years, and when the price becomes comparable with the latest iPhone that's going to have the potential to flip a totally different market segment to Android than would've previously considered it.

There are also multiple ways to use the folding screen tech, they can make phone with normal size unfolded screen and small folded form factor instead. Women's pocket sizes alone can sell a lot of those, and there's definitely a nostalgia market for e.g. the razr form factor too.

Re: Google Pixel Fold

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Post by oatmeal1 »

manningthegoose wrote: post #9

I just don't understand who wants these foldable phones, especially at the $1799 price point. I guess a use case is wealthy frequent travelers who don't want a separate device with a larger screen to watch movies/videos on the go? Someone help me out here.

In addition to being very expensive, it also seems like you can't get a case on it. And they probably don't have much texture on the outside to give a good grip. Bad grip + bad protection = keep some savings in case you wreck it.
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