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Re: The Framework Laptop 13

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ARM is probably the architecture in the majority of devices currently if you account for android phones and iphones.

So ARM is the present.

True. RISC-V is out of my radar, what I'd really prefer is any linux laptop that's got >10h battery life and low heat output. Probably that's something that both ARM and RISC-V have in common?

Re: The Framework Laptop 13

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What are you expecting to run off all four slots that makes that a dealbreaker?

The whole point of the slots is to be able to rearrange them. If such options are limited, they may as well be standard ports, which would use less space. It basically negates a significant portion of the utility of the device.

I’d always thought the point of the slots was to provide choice to each user to match their preference, probably at the time of the initial purchase.

Honestly, that one might want to regularly rearrange the ports hadn’t occurred to me.

Re: The Framework Laptop 13

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I'd be a lot more interested in this if there was a way to get a decent keyboard on it, i.e. one with t-shaped arrow keys, instead of this terrible bar-shaped one. I ended up with some work Macbooks when they switched to bar-shaped and they were _miserable_ to use. I had to add some tape on the left and right keys just to get some tactile feedback about where my fingers had to end up. It's an absolute dealbreaker for…

It's kind of a minor nitpick but I also miss the half-size arrow and pgup/pgdown keys of Thinkpads. Framework already provides multiple layouts so they might be able to provide this variant on their Marketplace as well.

Your tape trick sounds like a good workaround meanwhile, and people have been doing more complex customizations and prototypes as well, for example: https://community.frame.work/t/changed-my-keyboard-layout-in...

Re: The Framework Laptop 13

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I've been waiting for this machine for so long, excited to see the actual CPU unveil. I may be out of date, but is the issue with not entering sleep mode properly resolved? That's a huge issue to me. Aside from Framework, does anyone suggest any other existing laptops that keep a fairly slim design while also offering lots of user repairability? I've had an okay experience with my Thinkpad X1 Carbon Gen 3, but she's…

I haven't been able to resolve it. My Framework is basically a desktop with a (really weak) hinge. It's the only computer I've ever had that falls all the way open if you pick it up even partially open, and the only one that won't ever actually go to sleep. I still use it a lot. I just don't ever unplug it for more than a couple hours.

Looks like they have a better hinge that you can change out your weak hinge. https://frame.work/products/display-hinge-kit?v=FRANFB0001

Re: The Framework Laptop 13

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Am I reading this right? * There's a decent built-in gpu * Or I can plug an external gpu into the back * Or I can rip out the mainboard on an old Framework and pop this one in * Or I can pop this mainboard into a Cooler Master case or some rando 3D printed case and have a PC which can sit on my desktop, underneath my TV, etc. (Granted this thing probably won't have the horsepower of a real desktop but for a lot of wo…

Yes, decent iGPU. But no on an external GPU in the back since this is for the 13" which has no modular bay for internal GPU (They mean a USB4 -> PCIe dock for the external GPU). There IS a 16" coming that will let you plugin a dedicated GPU. I will probably order this (or it's next version) one for my machine in 18 - 30 months since mine is only ~6 months old. edit: and apologies if I mis-understood or am being pedan…

Unless the Mobo doesn't support it, you should be able to use external GPU's even with Ryzen

Re: The Framework Laptop 13

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Any reason why you can't hook up that 4 screen display wall and that NAS at the same time by chaining DisplayPort and/or using a USB4 hub? To me, being hackers means finding ways of circumventing limits, rather than expecting all kinds of connectivity to just be handed to you the easiest possible way. > Edit: based on the voting, I guess only some of us on HN are Hackers! I also have example use cases too, to be cons…

I wasn't being super fair nor nice, but I very much felt like I was trying to combat gatekeeping. I was advocating for open & possible, against someone who was trying to shut people down. Intel has 160 Gbps of throughput available for connectivity. You might be able to physically get data to all the same devices with AMD, but at much reduced bandwidth, and the job wont be as easy. And you won't be able to use thunder…

There was no intention of gatekeeping. I was truly curious why someone would see that configuration as a deal-breaker.

Re: The Framework Laptop 13

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Is there any reasonable Linux support for a laptop with ARM right now? Asahi and Apple are one thing, but qualcomm's offerings haven't looked enticing at all.

I'm using the Acer Chromebook Spin 513 with a Qualcomm SC7180 processor as my daily driver and almost everything Just Works except hardware decoding (of videos) and 4k 60Hz display port output.

Are you running ChromeOS or a Linux distro?

Re: The Framework Laptop 13

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I’ll wait to see if they have proper “sleep” mode such that they don’t keep draining batter while not in use, particularly when running Linux. This is something that baffles me about non Apple Laptops how they just refuse to catch up to such a great benefit.. (alongside the trackpad experience which I can may be live with).

Maybe its just me, but I've found Macbooks to be worse for this

I have a Macbook Air, M1, which I don't use regularly but turn off after every use. When I go to turn it back on again, the battery's completely dead. I haven't had that from any non-apple laptop for a long time, and I sometimes go +6 months without turning them on

The trackpad though I'm in agreement with. I never understood why people use an external trackpad with their imacs until I used it on the macbook

Re: The Framework Laptop 13

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I would expect that within EEA most of the regulations would be the same and I don't think it's the problem. What you would need though is translated manuals and such by law. Maybe even localized support for warranties that could raise costs to enter a market. This is only my assumption, but it would make sense, that's why they cover even smaller English speaking countries like Ireland. Or for example Germany is a bi…

I found a nice reply on this topic here in the official forums: https://community.frame.work/t/availability-in-european-unio...

There must be a simpler way. I can buy any other electronics parts internationally, why not laptop parts from the Framework Marketplace? I also wouldn't mind buying as a business and skipping VAT and consumer protection. There's no import tax for computers either.

Re: The Framework Laptop 13

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I was almost certain my new laptop would be one of the newer thinkpads, but this might change it for me.

Kind of wish they offered a matte-black version though. I know its trivial, but I do love that Thinkpad look

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