Boy didn't he use plan 9 or something?
Perhaps you're thinking of Rob Pike?
Ken Thompson was also part of the Bell Labs Plan 9 team before they went to Google and created Go, but I’m sure both don’t use it as their regular OS today.
Ken Thompson's 75 year project: A century of popular music in a jukebox [video]
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#272Ok…
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#273Earlier quoted context omitted.
Developers vs. users is a false dichotomy. Users need software. Without software, there's nothing to use. The native Mac software ecosystem is slowly dying. Eventually everything on the Mac will just be a cross-platform afterthought.
Developers are really lazy. We have terms like DX and UX. It’s not a false dichotomy at all.
> Developers are really lazy.
Speak for yourself.
> We have terms like DX and UX. It’s not a false dichotomy at all.
It's still a false dichotomy, because they're not necessarily opposed. Making the native Mac software DX worse can also make the UX worse, and making the DX better can make the UX better. When I said "Eventually everything on the Mac will just be a cross-platform afterthought", I meant that the UX is becoming totally crappy. We get Electron, we get Catalyst, we get iOS apps on macOS. Crap. Bad UX.
Lack of powerful software, due to excessive security restrictions, is also a bad UX. Endless "Cancel or Allow" dialogs are a bad UX.
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#274As a lazy developer I also dislike what’s slowly happening to macOS. Apple wants you to switch to sandboxed apps but they don't provide a way for you to do even half the things a traditional app can (because they can’t imagine them all up front). That’s just frustrating and lazy on their part and makes the developer UX shitty. But, as an end user, what Apple is doing (bringing sandboxed apps and better security to th…
Developers vs. users is a false dichotomy. Users need software. Without software, there's nothing to use. The native Mac software ecosystem is slowly dying. Eventually everything on the Mac will just be a cross-platform afterthought.
But, increasingly, users don’t need desktop software.
In fact, the move towards sandboxes apps makes native apps closer to browser apps.
I’m not even saying it’s a good thing. Just that gimping native apps isn’t the footgun it would have been 10 years ago.
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A better headline: Unix Legend Ken Thompson discovers that you can't use Apple products for building cool DIY stuff.
Community sourced headlines (toggleable visibility natch) would be a great addition. Tie the voting to karma on them.
I’m suddenly reminded of the existence of n-gate!
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I have to admit, I tried and failed to switch away from Apple. I bought a Linux Laptop - an System 76. I was surprised at how terrible the battery management of linux was compared with my mac. And that particular issue broke me.
i switched. I have the previous gen AMD powered (Ryzen 5700U) system 76 and the battery life is decent (6-7 hours). I have one 4 year old system 76 notebook with the NVIDIA gpu and that thing when running the 3d graphics mode is terrible ( I really like software development on Linux much better than mac. There are a few things I miss from the apple side, but generally its been great.
OP here. Same. I was using NVIDIA graphics and it was very very bad.
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Maybe this is an unpopular opinion, but I prefer my OS put several hurdles in front of a key logging app.
They should have built this in from the start then, not semi-randomly break things.
This is a bizarre argument.
Do you feel the same way about Windows finally starting to take security seriously back in the mid 2000s?
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I get at least 5h on a Thinkpad T14s (Ryzen 6850U), without tweaking, using "balanced" mode. I know some people think 5h is not enough, but it's plenty for a full day of work. If the System 76 system was Intel based, that might have been the problem, AMD has been way ahead of them for power usage in the last few years.
Raw battery life aside, I think one big advantage macOS still has is that its power management isn't modal. There is a low power mode like iOS if you really want to eek out as much runtime as possible, but I've never once hit a need to use it. Outside of that, you lose no performance when running on battery, you get full performance when you need it, and high efficiency when you don't. Needing to manually choose a po…
I see your point, but I just leave it on "balanced" unless the battery is critically low. Fan very rarely comes on, everything runs quickly, and I get decent battery life. This was NOT, btw, my experience with Intel laptops.
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#279Earlier quoted context omitted.
Developers vs. users is a false dichotomy. Users need software. Without software, there's nothing to use. The native Mac software ecosystem is slowly dying. Eventually everything on the Mac will just be a cross-platform afterthought.
But, increasingly, users don’t need desktop software. In fact, the move towards sandboxes apps makes native apps closer to browser apps. I’m not even saying it’s a good thing. Just that gimping native apps isn’t the footgun it would have been 10 years ago.
What do you mean by "need"? Increasingly, users are force-fed cross-platform web apps. I wouldn't say that's what they need, and you're not even saying it's a good thing.
If users don't need desktop software, then why do they need desktop hardware?
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#280For those who might prefer text over video: Q: What's your operating system of choice, today? A: I have for most of my life, because I was sort of born into it, run Apple. Right now, recently, meaning within the last five years, I’ve become more and more and more depressed and [Laughter] what Apple is doing to something which should allow you to work is just atrocious, but they are taking a lot of space and time to d…
> ...what Apple is doing to something which should allow you to work is just atrocious... This is exactly how I feel about Microsoft Windows.
Haha but Windows isn't even in the discussion because dev that are able to ditch it has already done so.