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Give babies peanut butter to cut peanut allergies, study says

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Re: Give babies peanut butter to cut peanut allergies, study says

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Post by the_mar »

logicfiction wrote: post #137
bombcar wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trader Joes (and Costco) are just fine selling branded product if they can get a deal for it cheap enough. It's usually the manufacturer that doesn't want to "cheapen their brand" to hit the price points, but they're willing to "bulk up" for Costco or sell direct to Trader Joes at times.

Also a lot of things at Trader Joes are just white labeled versions of other products. As in, literally the same product, just inside packaging that says "Trader Joe's "

Many years ago I worked at a candy company. I tell you more. MOST of "private label" stuff is actually manufactured by the same company as the "name brand", what is more companies routinely manufacture stuff for each other depending on the factory loads, e.g. our plant would manufacture Reese's despite having no relation to the brand and it's a very common practice.

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Post by bialpio »

lm28469 wrote: post #104
nerpderp82 wrote: post #2

> Food allergies are the result of our immune system mistaking something harmless for a severe threat. If you IDS has never seen X and X is unlike anything it has seen, it will probably flag it. > There had been long-standing advice to avoid foods that can trigger allergies during early childhood. At one point, families were once told to avoid peanut until their child was three years old. This advice was never based…

> At one point, families were once told to avoid peanut until their child was three years old. > This advice was never based on science. I'm like 99% sure this was to avoid babies/young kids choking on peanut

Even the article mentions this: "Experts warn whole or chopped nuts and peanuts are a choking risk and should not be given to children under five."

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Post by berry_sortoro »

brewdad wrote: post #100
latchkey wrote: post #48

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https://www.traderjoes.com/home/products/pdp/058373 "Bamba Peanut Snacks contain just four, simple ingredients: corn grits, peanut paste, palm oil, and salt."

The palm oil is less than ideal but this isn't exactly health food to begin with.

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Re: Give babies peanut butter to cut peanut allergies, study says

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Post by varenc »

samketchup wrote: post #67

Why not develop an mrna shot for peanut butter?

I think you have this backwards. mRNA vaccines get your body to produce a strong immune response in reaction to the whatever protein the mRNA got your body to produce. Peanut allergies are caused by your body already having an incorrect and very strong immune reaction to something inert.

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Post by the_mar »

blarghyblarg wrote: post #185
bombcar wrote: post #153

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Those are the companies that don't want to admit selling their stuff for cheaper, so they get it store-branded.

I can't reply to the deeper comments, so I'll reply here. The "store branded" products are also sometimes the exact same stuff, but they pay less (or the premium brands pay a premium) to have "first run" rights. That is, the premium brands are packaged first, right after a cleaning, so you're less likely to have "inclusions" like chunks of tomato goop in your ketchup.

That's not always true. I actually don't know how true it is at all. At least in facilities that I know about, everything was manufactured exactly the same, there was no such thing as "first run after cleaning", as far as I know "first run" premium has more to do with volumes and scheduling (e.g. at a candy factory you'll get priority to get your orders filled before halloween) or if any equipment goes down your orders will always be prioritized

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chadash wrote: post #16

This is not new news, but nonetheless important to replicate and keep studying. I think the first often-cited study about this was in 2008 [1]. There are several more, including one in the New England Journal of Medicine in 2015 [2]. Basically, the original study looked at Jewish kids in Israel versus the UK and saw that peanut allergies were about 10x lower in Israel, even though Jews of European background (Ashkena…

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Post by dawnerd »

dboreham wrote: post #164
dap wrote: post #110

I still can’t get over that the official guidelines for years were the opposite of this, and it seems to have led to a tremendous increase in severe peanut allergy. I get that public health organizations have to make recommendations in the face of uncertainty. But to get it so wrong, with severe consequences — was there a postmortem or investigation of how that happened? How are people to trust public health guidelin…

My understanding of this is that the original problem was children choking on whole peanuts. Hence the advice not to eat peanuts . This somehow got lost in translation and became "don't eat any peanut-based food". Disclosure: son has severe peanut allergy.

Guessing same with honey? I hear people freak out a lot about infants having anything with honey in it. I feel it might be more along the choking lines with raw honey too.

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Post by Herodotus38 »

dawnerd wrote: post #277
dboreham wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My understanding of this is that the original problem was children choking on whole peanuts. Hence the advice not to eat peanuts . This somehow got lost in translation and became "don't eat any peanut-based food". Disclosure: son has severe peanut allergy.

Guessing same with honey? I hear people freak out a lot about infants having anything with honey in it. I feel it might be more along the choking lines with raw honey too.

The problem with honey is that it can cause botulism. Infants under 1 are most susceptible.

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Post by ubj »

wil421 wrote: post #257
sofixa wrote: post #256

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How and why would peanuts get all over the skin? Are there peanut-based creams or something?

Oh man! Let me tell you something…I have 3 kids 3 and under and spaghetti nights are crazy. My 3 year old is better but my 1.5 year old is a hot mess. He has to be shitless during most meals or else the shirt isn’t going to last. Everything is smeared on his face and arms when he eats, even with a watchful parent it only takes half a second. We’ve noticed spaghetti sauce will start to give him a rash on his belly onl…

I can confirm this. I have two kids under 4 along with several nieces and nephews. Kids are unbelievably messy when they first learn to eat. Food ends up in places you never thought imaginable. Mealtimes always involve a "blast radius" of food products spilled / smeared / dropped / thrown / regurgitated.

Re: Give babies peanut butter to cut peanut allergies, study says

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Post by shkkmo »

soperj wrote: post #243
atomicUpdate wrote: post #147

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This is literally an article with proof that the previous guidance we was wrong and actively harmful to the children that were subjected to it.

This is literally an article that is pointing to a research paper that doesn't definitely conclude anything.

I'm not sure which article or paper you are reading?

The paper the article references says:

> A 77% reduction in peanut allergy was estimated when peanut was introduced to the diet of all infants, at 4 months with eczema, and at 6 months without eczema. The estimated reduction in peanut allergy diminished with every month of delayed introduction. If introduction was delayed to 12 months, peanut allergy was only reduced by 33%.

Edit: While I'm not sure what your standards are for "conclusive", the author's of the paper have drawn pretty strong conclusions and any doubts I see are around precisely how much the effectiveness of peanut introduction drops off with infant age, not about wether such a drop occurs.

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