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Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there not some way to undue that? I'm sure it would be a hassle, but hacking someone's account and transferring their domain name is a crime, it also leaves a very obvious paper trail. Seems like the registrars involved would be willing to reverse transfers under such circumstances.

I've been running a stolen domain name recovery service for a few years now. Even though hacking into someone's account and transferring the domain name to themselves or transferring it to another domain registrar is a crime, it's never prosecuted (when they come to us the first thing we have them do is file a police report). The problem is that most domain registrars won't help get your domain name back. Many domain…

>Most domain registrars don't care at all, and won't help.

Don't leave us hanging like that! Which are the registrars that do care, and will help then? Even if they cost more.

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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Thus is all the fault of Laetitia Halliday, ultimately. If she did not sue Valentin Lacambre, he would not have abandoned altern.org. If he kept altern.org, gandi would have been an association, not a corporation. And the world would be a slightly better place.

TIL. (for those also out of the loop: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altern )

For those out of French: https://archive.is/b0qY9 (Valentine Lacambre, co-founder of Gandi.net) / https://archive.is/rxDO1 (AlternB)

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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Gandi email has been useless from the start. They say right in the contract that they don't back up their email servers. Isn't the host handling chores like backup part of the point of a hosted product? Of course you can and should distrust the host's backups and have your own in addition, but that's way different than the host not doing them in the first place. Maybe they have fixed that (I don't see it on their sit…

Just to be clear, Microsoft and Google don't back up their e-mail services, it's a common misconception about "cloud" services.

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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Tangential by related technical question: Does something exist out there which is equivalent to a domain name for a website (or an any entity) which is independent of a external entities, like DNS or DNS like servers. I know that in some sense public/private keys in asymmetric cryptography mimic that feature (the public key being the address of the receiver), but is there anything out of the box? Does Tor have a simi…

Maybe like ENS? https://ens.domains/

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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The submitted title was "Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, screws existing customers". The latter bit is linkbait so I've edited it (as the site guidelines request - https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html ). But I realize the OP isn't just complaining about price increases, so if someone can suggest a more accurate and neutral title, we can change it again.

how about: "Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes"

Ok let's use that. Thanks!

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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What registrars has HN been using lately? I've been super lazy and use Route53 for everything right now.

Route53 is Gandi under the covers

Route53 registration doesn't seem to get a lot of resources at AWS.

They can take years to add new TLDs (I've been waiting for 5+ years for them to do .nz properly). Checkout the support forum. Lots of:

   * Someone asks for a new TLD
   * Quick reply saying request forwarded to team
   * a year passes
   * Another person asks when that TLD will become available. 
Probably okay for the basic stuff though.

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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Thus is all the fault of Laetitia Halliday, ultimately. If she did not sue Valentin Lacambre, he would not have abandoned altern.org. If he kept altern.org, gandi would have been an association, not a corporation. And the world would be a slightly better place.

Interesting bit of backstory. That reminds me how one of the frequent complaints about Gandi have been its unusual terms of service, having fairly extensive "morality clauses" in there

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

http://www.gandi.net/static/contracts/en/g2/pdf/MSA-1.3-EN.p... (note that new versions seem to not have the clauses anymore..)

I wonder if that history has something to do with that...

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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Crap, I was about to move there because the namecheap CEO is too impulsive and still waiting for the explanation of their "third party getting hacked" a few weeks ago. Where do I go now?

Hover has been about as no nonsense as it can get. Not the cheapest, but I'd rather pay a few extra dollars a year to not have to deal with this in the future. I swear I'm the only person I know not constantly switching domain registrars, because I don't want to waste time sweating over maybe tens of dollars a year for something so core to my operations.

The one time many years ago I had to call support for a question a human being answered in 2 rings.

Tucows (which owns Hover) has been around for 30 years. It's likely they'll be around for a long while still.

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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> I've purchased domains from Gandi, pre-paying for multiple years of service such that some domains I have don't need renewing until 2027. Just in case you did not know: if you transfer to a different registrar, you will not lose the extra years of registration. You can confirm the expected expiration date of 2027 at lookup.icann.org.

It depends on the registry, but you cannot extend a domain out past 10 years.

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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I've bought a strangers domain name with a deal to keep hosting their two e-mail addresses. Just set up everything last year and can't easily move off. It now seems that this deal is going to cost me a lot more. I prepaid until 2029. Their tagline "No Bullshit" seems to no longer apply. I was a good client for over 10 years. Shame, that they don't have a japanese office, but maybe I can do small claims court in taiwan.
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