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Hardware microphone disconnect (2021)

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Re: Hardware microphone disconnect (2021)

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Post by taneq »

karaterobot wrote: post #220
JohnBooty wrote: post #171

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Overwhelmingly, it does "just work" as Apple intended. However, it's often quite opinionated. So Apple's intended functionality may or may not jive with your preferences. This is neither a defense nor criticism of Apple, and it's not a defense or criticism of your preferences either. I will point out that anecdotally, I don't hear too many people wanting their mouse's scrolling to work in the opposite direction as th…

FWIW, I think the phrase "just works" implies that you, the user, should expect it to work without any tweaks or workarounds. So, the user's preferences are implied. Saying that it just works in many cases , or that it just works for Apple is not what is implied by that marketing. It's a strong promise that was chosen for a reason, and in many cases they do not live up to it.

Do they still use that line? While some of their newer stuff does meet that standard, a lot more “just works if you already know what it does“ (eg. AirPods need to be in the case to pair… why?) and still more seems kinda random (fk you iOS keyboard.)

Re: Hardware microphone disconnect (2021)

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

mtrower wrote: post #269
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #244

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>I think Apple's probably got well over 99% of the userbase covered with the defaults and opinions here. The vast amount of MacOS apps built by the community to undo Apple's terrible and backwards UX choices, and the amounts of sales those apps get, disproves your theory that over 99% of people are fine with the defaults Apple forces on its users.

Does it? Or is it possible that 1% is still pretty large?

Maybe it's bigger than 1%.

Re: Hardware microphone disconnect (2021)

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Post by datagram »

rpledge wrote: post #110
tagyro wrote: post #77

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That is actually meant to keep the connection to a Bluetooth keyboard/mouse when using the computer in clamshell mode.

Apples clamshell mode support is super confusing IMHO. This is once thing Windows does better at least by default. Perhaps Macs can be configured to what I expect but I personally have struggled with getting it to work in a way that satisfies me.

I feel the opposite way. Trying to get Windows laptops to keep outputting to an external display with the lid closed has always been a hassle for me.

Re: Hardware microphone disconnect (2021)

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Post by altairprime »

lovehashbrowns wrote: post #62

They have this feature but closing the lid on a MacBook or even putting it to sleep allows Bluetooth devices to stay connected. Heck, a MacBook even while in sleep mode will connect to Bluetooth devices. As far as I can see, this requires a third-party app to fix. Can an application still use the microphone on a Bluetooth device that’s connected?

Yes, I videoconference regularly from a closed-lid MacBook with a Bluetooth headset.

Re: Hardware microphone disconnect (2021)

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Post by karaterobot »

taneq wrote: post #271
karaterobot wrote: post #220

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FWIW, I think the phrase "just works" implies that you, the user, should expect it to work without any tweaks or workarounds. So, the user's preferences are implied. Saying that it just works in many cases , or that it just works for Apple is not what is implied by that marketing. It's a strong promise that was chosen for a reason, and in many cases they do not live up to it.

Do they still use that line? While some of their newer stuff does meet that standard, a lot more “just works if you already know what it does“ (eg. AirPods need to be in the case to pair… why?) and still more seems kinda random (fk you iOS keyboard.)

I don't think they do, but I was responding to a comment about the applicability of the phrase to current Apple products. Maybe "it just works" is like Google's "do the right thing": both make sense if you append "(for us)" to the end.

Re: Hardware microphone disconnect (2021)

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Post by chenghuzi »

supermdguy wrote: post #73
dvirsky wrote: post #67

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This has to be the most annoying thing in MacOS. My laptop, soundly sleeping in my backpack, takes over my bluetooth headphones all the time.

I hate that this isn't configurable by default, but bluesnooze solved this for me: https://github.com/odlp/bluesnooze

you can just use hammerspoon to get the same effect, turning off the bluetooth/wifi right after entering sleep mode and turning them back on when the Mac is unlocked.

Re: Hardware microphone disconnect (2021)

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Post by givinguflac »

mgkimsal wrote: post #234
sroussey wrote: post #188

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Why have the Mac ring if you don’t answer from the Mac? I turned that off in settings. Still text via Mac though!

"settings" was vague. I looked in system settings - nothing there. Apparently, it's a 'facetime' setting? Will this make switching 'audio from mac via airpods' to 'audio from iphone via airpods' any faster?

You should be able to tap the speakerphone icon on your iPhone, choose AirPods, and they’ll switch immediately in my experience

Re: Hardware microphone disconnect (2021)

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

datagram wrote: post #273
rpledge wrote: post #110

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Apples clamshell mode support is super confusing IMHO. This is once thing Windows does better at least by default. Perhaps Macs can be configured to what I expect but I personally have struggled with getting it to work in a way that satisfies me.

I feel the opposite way. Trying to get Windows laptops to keep outputting to an external display with the lid closed has always been a hassle for me.

>Trying to get Windows laptops to keep outputting to an external display with the lid closed has always been a hassle for me

Can't concur with this. My windows laptop is has its lid closed and is outputting to a display. Only thing I do is uncheck the default behavior of putting the laptop to sleep when the lid is closed. This should be enough. Did you do this?

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