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Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

#271

It's concerning and symptomatic for the current culture in North America how many comments there are insinuating this to be fabricated, without knowing details or it even having gone to court yet.

A person being weird under influence of alcohol (due to loss of inhibition) and being vindictive later on (instead of owning up to their behavior) if rejected is really not hard to believe.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

#272

Without passing comment on the case, this guy appeared to go to 3 further work events including alcohol after the incident. Why do people put themselves in these situations at work? I'm nervous having even 1 drink with work colleagues in todays day and age, let alone getting plastered 3 times with the same people after an incident.

"He was asking for it."

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

#273
> During a videoconference call, Olohan said he was told by the Google Employee Investigations team that he was being fired because he was not “inclusive.”

> When he asked why he was non-inclusive, Olohan was told that he had shown favouritism towards high-performing employees and that he was “ableist” for commenting on other employees’ “walking pace.”

Sounds like satire...

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

#274

> Olohan said he began feeling increasing pressure from his supervisor, who told him that there were “obviously too many white guys” on his management team. In July he was encouraged to fire a male employee to make room on his team for a woman, the suit claims. This is the most crazy section. Why physical characteristics like gender or ethnicity should be important in the management selection? And if yes, why only th…

Their goal is diversity. I think diversity might have been shown to lead to better team outcomes.

To me the craziest part is:

> Olohan was told that he had shown favouritism towards high-performing employees

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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post #18

Probably worth noting this story was first published by the New York Post. Take that for what you will. That said, this is a pretty wild turn of events. From the initial and continued sexual harassment/assault to the racism, and subsequent retaliation. More curious is the very direct "your team is too male" and the encouragement to fire someone. I've heard this hinted at before, but never said out loud for obvious re…

>More curious is the very direct "your team is too male" and the encouragement to fire someone. My friend who still lives in the Valley says this kind of sentiment is incredibly common there nowadays, e.g. advertising an open position and having discussions internally that a man won't be hired for the role. It's pretty surprising to me, because statistics show that most major careers have a gender imbalance in one di…

This general phenomenon is not just a moral panic, and is not caused by social media, though it may have a role in its spread. It is caused by a number of deep-rooted factors compounding on one another. One of them is the increasingly bloated managerial class in Western societies that are trying to hold on to their power. This is done by sowing division in the society, dismantling its former institutions (religion, civil society), and instilling a new set of values which they can enforce. Another one of them is the legacy of the two World Wars of the previous century, in which the West lost belief in the values it once believed in, and postmodernist values took their place. One of the most prominent values among these is a view of any sort of heterogeneity as oppression, and that there is a moral imperative to "correct" it by any means possible. The elites, fearing that they might lose power if people became more class-conscious, channeled this sentiment to certain issues that would not harm them too much, such as gender and race politics.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

#276

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Question for this sort of situation: could you send an email to "confirm the case" to your boss and your boss'boss for this? They would need to respond and get this in writing. At that point, if they fire you they will have a big problem, if they don't hire the person, they will still have a big problem. I understand that it creates a whole set of bad situations, so just asking what's the theoretical appropriate way…

No. Don't do this unless you have a backup job, or can survive fine for a while on unemployment. If you do want to report the behavior, report the pertinent details to the EEOC (or whatever is equivalent for your country).

Wouldn't the company be in big trouble if they fired you after that email?

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

#277
post #18

Probably worth noting this story was first published by the New York Post. Take that for what you will. That said, this is a pretty wild turn of events. From the initial and continued sexual harassment/assault to the racism, and subsequent retaliation. More curious is the very direct "your team is too male" and the encouragement to fire someone. I've heard this hinted at before, but never said out loud for obvious re…

>More curious is the very direct "your team is too male" and the encouragement to fire someone. My friend who still lives in the Valley says this kind of sentiment is incredibly common there nowadays, e.g. advertising an open position and having discussions internally that a man won't be hired for the role. It's pretty surprising to me, because statistics show that most major careers have a gender imbalance in one di…

> My friend who still lives in the Valley says this kind of sentiment is incredibly common there nowadays, e.g. advertising an open position and having discussions internally that a man won't be hired for the role.

Your friend (and your friend's HR organization) should be aware that this is extremely illegal.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

#278

Created a throwaway for this post. It is so scary and damaging to be accused of moral misconduct of this type. I cannot imagine how many people (independent of the gender) are going through this kind of abuse and not daring to bring it up because of the way it is approached and the whole complexity of proving it. I have a similar experience: I used to work at a big tech with +100,000 employees, and had a female co-wo…

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Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

#279

These stories leave a bad taste in my mouth. It hasn't yet gone to court, so the guys allegations could be really be anything from the God's honest truth all the way to a complete fabrication. Yet there is a huge amount of irreparable damage by public stories like this. I was once personally on the receiving end of a complete false sexual harassment allegation from a coworker almost at random (someone I had almost no…

Didn't want to post from my main account to avoid any references and trails. It goes beyond just sexual harassment at work. I was accused by my ex wife. Even before any trials or anything: I lost my job, banks, housing and pretty much anything that requires a background check. I fought this for a year, and everything was dropped, because her friend came as witnesses and explained how she and my ex wife planned on set…

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Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

#280

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He wasn't an engineer, so I'm sure his compensation was much lower than what you think.

Mate, he was a director and he has 7 kids. He must be at least well off. Probably extremely well off.

> he has 7 kids

In New York City. You're right, that requires a big income. And puts a sizeable dent in it.

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