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Re: Stable Diffusion 2.0

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Post by boardwaalk »

xnyan wrote: post #66
dougmwne wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you kidding? Many times corporate decisions are being made effectively at random. Thinking that the average company operates with a 999 batting average is a total fantasy.

When our c suite decides on an ad campaign and tells our artists to draw normal humans, those people have 3 legs or upside down teeth exactly 0% of the time. Humans have many many limitations, but with every model I’ve tested there’s a set of errors that would virtually never be made by any human.

No one is suggesting anyone take the first image out of a model without any human-based filtering.

Re: Stable Diffusion 2.0

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Post by ENGNR »

wokwokwok wrote: post #175
ftufek wrote: post #81

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To put things in perspective, the dataset it's trained on is ~240TB and Stability has over ~4000 Nvidia A100 (which is much faster than a 1080ti). Without those ingredients, you're highly unlikely to get a model that's worth using (it'll produce mostly useless outputs). That argument also makes little sense when you consider that the model is a couple gigabytes itself, it can't memorize 240TB of data, so it "learned"…

Quite right, but… > That argument also makes little sense when you consider that the model is a couple gigabytes itself, it can't memorize 240TB of data, so it "learned". The matter is really very nuanced and trivialising it that way is unhelpful. If I recompress 240TB as super low quality jpgs and manage to zip them up as single file that is significantly smaller than 240TB (because you can), does the fact they are…

> …because if it’s just learning techniques, generic public domain art should be fine right? Can’t you just engineer the prompting better so that it generates “by Greg Rutkowski“ images without being trained on actual images by Greg?

Is it fair to hold it to a higher standard than humans though? To some degree it's the whole "xxx..... on a computer!" thing all over again if we go that way

Re: Stable Diffusion 2.0

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Post by npteljes »

throwaway0x7E6 wrote: post #112
bloaf wrote: post #50

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They know they are going to be the next target in the war on general purpose computing. They're trying to stave it off for as long as possible by signalling to the authorities that they are the good guys. A confrontation is inevitable, though. Right now it costs moderate sums of money to do this level of training. Not always will this be so. If I were an AI-centric organization, I would be racing to position myself a…

appeasement never works. those who wage that war should be directly confronted. and they will lose it, just like they've lost the war on encryption.

This is business, not ethics, though. They just don't want the negative attention, that's it. And because this is a business, time matters, same as DRMs. Almost all DRMs get defeated, yet the work, because they hinder the crackers, even if for some time. Same here. While Stability is not under attack yet, they can establish themselves as the household name for AI in a safer context.

Re: Stable Diffusion 2.0

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Post by novatad »

Hamuko wrote: post #224
fastball wrote: post #76

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Is artificially generated CSAM that doesn't actually involve children in its production not an improvement over the status quo?

"Artificially-generated CSAM" is a misnomer, since it involves no actual sexual abuse. It's "simulated child pornography", a category that would include for example paintings.

Very much this. If someone goes out and trains a model on actual photographs of abuse, then holy shit, call in the cops.

If someone is generating sketchy cartoons from a training set of sketchy cartoons... well, gross, but there's no victims there.

Re: Stable Diffusion 2.0

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Post by 127 »

tamersalama wrote: post #107
LASR wrote: post #27

I am a solo dev working on a creative content creation app to leverage the latest developments in AI. Demoing even the v1 of stable diffusion to the non-technical general users blows them away completely. Now that v2 is here, it’s clear we’re not able to keep pace in developing products to take advantage of it. The general public still is blown away by autosuggest in mobile OS keyboards. Very few really know how far…

I agree that this a big wave, but I'm still struggling to find commercial (read: large organizations) applications.

Why does it have to be large organization? Why can't it be many small businesses.

Re: Stable Diffusion 2.0

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Post by novatad »

Waterluvian wrote: post #17
satvikpendem wrote: post #12

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They reportedly did so to stop people from generating CSAM [0]. [0] https://old.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/y9ga5s/sta...

I regularly skimmed 4Chan’s /b/ to get a frame of reference for fringe internet culture. But I’ve had to stop because the CSAM they generate by the hundreds per hour is just freakishly and horrifyingly high fidelity. There’s a lot of important social questions to ask about the future of pornography, but I’m sure not going to be the one to touch that with a thousand foot pole.

I've spent too many hours there myself, but I haven't seen any AI CSAM, and it's been many years since I witnessed trolls posting the real thing. Moderation (or maybe automated systems) got a lot better at catching that.

Now, if you meant gross cartoons, yes, those get posted daily. But there are no children being abused by the creation or sharing of those images, and conflating the two types of image is dishonest.

Re: Stable Diffusion 2.0

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Post by npteljes »

datalopers wrote: post #40
satvikpendem wrote: post #12

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They reportedly did so to stop people from generating CSAM [0]. [0] https://old.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/y9ga5s/sta...

They’ve ensured the only way to create CSAM is through old-fashioned child exploitation, meanwhile all perfectly humane art and photography is at risk of AI replacement. This is a huge missed opportunity to actually help society.

I don't think, and Stability's CEO also doesn't seem to think, that society would receive it as a benefit. Therefore, it's undesirable, right now.

Re: Stable Diffusion 2.0

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Post by lannisterstark »

LASR wrote: post #27

I am a solo dev working on a creative content creation app to leverage the latest developments in AI. Demoing even the v1 of stable diffusion to the non-technical general users blows them away completely. Now that v2 is here, it’s clear we’re not able to keep pace in developing products to take advantage of it. The general public still is blown away by autosuggest in mobile OS keyboards. Very few really know how far…

>Huge market opportunity for folks wanting to ride the wave here.

what precisely is the market here?

Re: Stable Diffusion 2.0

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Post by npteljes »

throwup wrote: post #20
satvikpendem wrote: post #12

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They reportedly did so to stop people from generating CSAM [0]. [0] https://old.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/y9ga5s/sta...

Do pixels have human rights now?

No, but people and enterprises have reputation.

Re: Stable Diffusion 2.0

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Post by myrloc »

“Adoption” is a generous term to use for a description of Github stars (referring to the first graph). There’s no denying stable diffusion has been gaining popularity, but I think it’s hard to say it’s really being adopted at the same rate it’s getting starred on Github.
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