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Re: ZLibrary domains have been seized by the United States Postal Inspection Service

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Post by primax »

mvkg wrote: post #231
pilimi_anna wrote: post #103

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Holy shit! Did not see this coming, but glad we saved this collection just in time. (I'm Anna, the one who made the backup). We are working on hosting this collection, as well as saving other large collections. Please consider supporting us, donation details at http://pilimi.org (we'll set up a patreon-like system soon)

You mirror Z-Library but don't support TLS on any of your sites. This seems like an odd choice. What is your threat model?

Probably 'I want to archive books'. Not 'I want end to end privacy for anyone clicking on my plain text site with a few torrent links.

Re: ZLibrary domains have been seized by the United States Postal Inspection Service

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Post by primax »

1dry wrote: post #230
wardedVibe wrote: post #218

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I just want a copy of the thing I paid for that I can use on whatever machine in whatever way I want without a bunch of bullshit hoops

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I don't accept that I need to purchase the same work several times for them to be able to eke out a living. Especially given the price of many books.

Re: ZLibrary domains have been seized by the United States Postal Inspection Service

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Post by system2 »

GolDDranks wrote: post #262

What surprised me was that there is something called "United States Postal Inspection Service" that has some police-like law enforcement powers. Every so often you TIL something about the US.

If you are into that kind of thing, go ahead and read all U.S. Government Departments here:

https://www.usa.gov/federal-agencies

Some weird ones are there for sure.

Re: ZLibrary domains have been seized by the United States Postal Inspection Service

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Post by psychphysic »

bheadmaster wrote: post #260
1dry wrote: post #241

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What is wrong with that, especially as it facilitates the creator's being able to earn income from their irreplaceable work?

One could argue that the whole purpose of society is to get rid of scarcity. Creators being unable to earn income is a problem - but artificial scarcity is not a good solution, as it benefits the few at the expense of many. Imagine if everyone was prohibited from sharing news over internet because "free distribution of news harms the journalists who rely on newspaper sales" - that'd be absurd, wouldn't it? Old-school…

> One could argue that the whole purpose of society is to get rid of scarcity.

BAM you just blew my mind at quarter to 8 on a Friday.

Re: ZLibrary domains have been seized by the United States Postal Inspection Service

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Post by chocolatkey »

handsclean wrote: post #254
chocolatkey wrote: post #125

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As someone who works in the ebook sector, I'll say that no one loves Adobe's DRM, whether it be the publisher, vendor or user. It's implemented by apps and such because of the network effect - other apps support it, and users want to be able to read Adobe DRMed content without trouble, and it was also the first big solution to the "problem" of ebook DRM. However, because people have to pay a fee to Adobe per license,…

GP lists some concrete deal breakers with existing DRM: - you can only read them in [publisher-approved apps] - you can't share them with your kids - you are guaranteed to lose access to them in 10 years or tomorrow Does LCP solve any of these problems?

> you can only read them in [publisher-approved apps]

You can read them in LCP-approved apps. Publishers don't decide which apps are LCP-approved. There is a decent selection of apps that exists, on mobile and desktop.

(the following doesn't apply to loans, only owned books)

> you can't share them with your kids

You can, see https://www.edrlab.org/readium-lcp/faq/ "What are the advantages of LCP for users?" and "Why isn’t there a strict device limit on LCP licenses?"

> you are guaranteed to lose access to them in 10 years or tomorrow

As long as there still exists an app that supports LCP, you can still open the ebook.

As I said in another comment, I think it's the best compromise that will exist in reality for publishers that still want DRM. The entire system is open-source except a small key derivation function. Note I'm not involved directly with LCP, but collaborate closely with people that do for the Readium project.

Re: ZLibrary domains have been seized by the United States Postal Inspection Service

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Post by prox »

anyfoo wrote: post #242
areoform wrote: post #220

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Thank you so much for your efforts! I have steadily become convinced that we should make a multi-billion year backup of all of humanity's knowledge. All of it. Something that, - is resilient (can survive a nuclear explosion) - requires no power - doesn't require software to read/reboot from - (theoretically) lasts for at least 1 billion years Copying from the Long Now Foundation's projects, I think we can achieve the…

I think what you consider the hardest part, putting it together so that someone who does not speak any human language today deciphers it, is actually one of the least of your problems. Unless you deliberately encrypt the information (which you wouldn’t), I have a feeling that even Wikipedia alone might be sufficient for a motivated civilization to figure it out. Linguists and archeologists in our time have to do with…

Off world would help, no atmosphere on the moon for instance makes for less deterioration, and a cave system would shield it from radiation.

On earth clay tablets have done a great job : we have tablets 6000 years old, so we know that works. That’s 60% of 10k already. Titanium seems expensive and might be melted down in time of need, like bronze has been often in the past. Clay tablets survived partly because it’s a ‘worthless’ material.

Re: ZLibrary domains have been seized by the United States Postal Inspection Service

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Post by psychphysic »

pilimi_anna wrote: post #245
MVf4l wrote: post #213

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Hi Anna, could you please confirm that your server and yourself are not under US jurisdiction?

I will make no claims about my identity one way or another. If you are worried for me, don't be. If you are worried for yourself, then please take actions in line with your risk tolerance.

More likely they are worried about throwing their money away if the US now has a taste for takedowns.

Re: ZLibrary domains have been seized by the United States Postal Inspection Service

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Post by adhesive_wombat »

areoform wrote: post #220
pilimi_anna wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Holy shit! Did not see this coming, but glad we saved this collection just in time. (I'm Anna, the one who made the backup). We are working on hosting this collection, as well as saving other large collections. Please consider supporting us, donation details at http://pilimi.org (we'll set up a patreon-like system soon)

Thank you so much for your efforts! I have steadily become convinced that we should make a multi-billion year backup of all of humanity's knowledge. All of it. Something that, - is resilient (can survive a nuclear explosion) - requires no power - doesn't require software to read/reboot from - (theoretically) lasts for at least 1 billion years Copying from the Long Now Foundation's projects, I think we can achieve the…

6.5 million plates at $500 each is 3 billion, not 35 million.

Just don't make them look gold (even if they're not solid gold), or they'll get looted and melted.

Though it would be fun if a murderous warlord ended up with a gotten crown made of the Wikipedia article for toilet paper orientation. [1]

[1]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet_paper_orientation

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