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Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap

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Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap

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Signal Snap Maintainer here, this is because of a DMCA takedown request from lawyers representing Signal. Canonical is currently working with them to clear things up. Canonical's communication to me was initially lacking due to issues in their process, the process has been amended and I'm back in the loop again.

This deserves a lot of publicity. Why send a DMCA takedown instead of contact the people involved? Will they do the same if some vulnerability is found in Signal? Lawyer up instead of fix the problem?

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Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap

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The name for the Signal Desktop package is signal-desktop and Signal provides instructions on their website on how to add their deb repository.

Too difficult. Their install instructions are also too complicated and involve reading about 5 lines of comments and 4 shell commands. It should NEVER be more than 1 line of shell or 2 mouse clicks to install anything. This is 2022, not 1995. It's faster to just search for "signal" in the snap store and hit "Install".

All that time you've gained on the installation will be lost during the lethargic start of snapped application :P

Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap

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Yet another reason not to use Signal. The correct behavior would have been for signal to offer an official snap or to contact the maintainer. Instead they send their legal team...

Moxies always been fairly dictatorial about Signal. no third party clients, no decentralization. im not surprised to see a DMCA at all. So far Signal is a centralized encrypted messaging app that includes its own cryptocurrency and wallet no one asked for, shills me for donations every other release, and begs me to invite new users despite deprecating regular SMS message support. if youre a threat-actor the most male…

Also HQ in US, rofl.

Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap

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This is my semi-regular message where I decry that Keybase Chat ( https://keybase.io ) isn't more popular. It's cross-platform, fully E2EE, has the best identity solution of all, open source, doesn't depend on phone numbers, etc etc, isn't mar In my experience, it beat all the alternatives I have used (incl. Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp, and especially Apple's Messenger). The only caveat is that Keybase.io got acquired…

It's also basically dead after the acquisition.

Look at the github history.

Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap

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That's not the case. And if it were, it still wouldn't matter because the AGPLv3 source would have granted you a license to that too being a copyright license.

AGPLv3 allows one to add trademark terms that, when violated, revoke the copyright license.

Link to where Signal added these terms? You've posted a variant of this claim several times on this post but as far as I can see Signal-Desktop is licensed under a pure AGPLv3 which definitely does not have such terms.

Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap

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And last time I checked, they refused to let you use your own signing keys. Means you do not get end to end trust for your own bits but need to rely on Canonical that they don’t screw up - with the obvious effect of strong vendor lock-in as I cannot sign and run my own bits.

This is the reason that Signal has given for not providing/allowing their client on f-droid (since all f-droid apks are signed by f-droid rather than the maintainer). I wouldn't be surprised if it were the issue here.

iirc fdroid allows apps to be signed by the developer if the builds are reproducible.

Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap

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This doesn’t change the fact that signal is the best option for my grandma to use still. Moxie is no longer active in signal afaik. This is the new leadership.

> This doesn’t change the fact that signal is the best option for my grandma to use still. Is it? How do you measure that? It seems like WhatsApp is a better default choice for most people probably.

Default should be sms, it is on every phone.

As for web/desktop one can use also Telegram.

Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap

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>try Matrix earlier this year and so far I've regret it Why is that?

Very bloated and unreliable.

Have you tried XMPP? The server and client implentations are both a lot more resource efficient.

Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap

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Ubuntu minus snap is to me is still worth the headache honestly. Once you write the build script that cleans up the crap you forget it was ever even there. Would I use Ubuntu as a desktop , oh hell no -- nothing is ever going to beat Fedora.

Fair enough, Linux at the end of the day is Linux -- can't fault anyone for making it fit their needs Good to hear you enjoy Fedora, I do as well! I use the server variant for my stuff, unless you compile kernel modules you might find it a decent fit

I would because hot damn does Redhat have their shit together when it comes to creating a stable cohesive system but I use Lightsail so my options are limited and I'm not touching Centos 8 since it's already EOL.

Re: Snap Store administrators removed signal-desktop from Ubuntu Snap

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My new policy is to just install Debian instead.

Consider tweaking your policy to install Devuan instead. Basically the same thing, but not only does it not have snap, it's also systemd-free :-)

Thanks, but I've come to like systemd.
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