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Re: TomTom’s new mapping platform and ecosystem

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I don't understand the 'everything was better when it wasn't google' mentality that is so often found in these threads. My dad used to work at TomTom right here in the Netherlands. They used to be a fun and innovative company to work for. When it became apparent they entered a multibillion dollar business it was all about the money. As someone who used TomTom before other options became available I can honestly say t…

Sure maybe it sucked, but could anyone else have James Earl Jones giving you turn by turn directions? https://youtu.be/o9Oso7199WE

Re: TomTom’s new mapping platform and ecosystem

#272
post #95

Is TomTom going to contribute back to OpenStreetMap?

Yes. They sponsored the last annual State of the Map-conference and already did some mapping work. They also released some analysis datasets which highlighted possible problems in OSM (with the intention to improve OSM)

Re: TomTom’s new mapping platform and ecosystem

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post #142

I don't understand the 'everything was better when it wasn't google' mentality that is so often found in these threads. My dad used to work at TomTom right here in the Netherlands. They used to be a fun and innovative company to work for. When it became apparent they entered a multibillion dollar business it was all about the money. As someone who used TomTom before other options became available I can honestly say t…

I must agree. I do not remember a very pleasant experience using the GPS dash units. I would move often with the Navy and would use the GPS unit for a couple weeks but challenge myself as soon as possible to learn to get around without it. Now when I am going somewhere over 30 minutes away I throw it into GMaps even if I know how to get there, as there could be a number of events that could've caused a reroute since…

My commute to work is very predictable, but the commute home is not. I always use Google maps driving home, even though it is only 27 miles, because Gmaps will direct me to alternate routes if there is a traffic tie up on my usual route home. This has saved me literally days of time over my years of commuting.

Re: TomTom’s new mapping platform and ecosystem

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Google maps is fantastic. It beats literally everything else I can think of. But that’s scary. I want a competitor that offers at least roughly similar quality, but Google is so far ahead that it’s no contest.

In my experience, Apple Maps is on par with Google Maps (at least in the U.S.), esp with latest improvements in non-car routes (i.e., cycling, though I use Komoot for that anyway). However Google tends to have more POI (they're further ahead in the ad biz). With so many iPhones and Apple Maps being an smoother experience (Siri/OS integration), it definitely competes heavily with Google (at least in US).

Agree Apple Maps is great now. Except the multi-stop support only works for driving... but other than that it works very well. It'd been awhile since I'd actually driven until a couple of weeks ago and I was pleasantly surprised how good the turn-by-turn directions were, announcing things like "go past the next light then turn left".

Re: TomTom’s new mapping platform and ecosystem

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Google Maps has a few quirks. Here in Germany it always prefers to send you through 30km/h residential zones. Which might be somewhat faster than taking congested main roads but those 30km/h zones are terrible to drive through. There's always cars parked at one side of the street so you have to wait for oncoming traffic. The streets usually are very narrow. So the stress level to the driver is way higher. I also noti…

That sounds horrible for yellow and red cars. I hope all new cars are green.

yeah, yellow is like very old diesels and red is for cars without a catalytic converter. so most cars (even my RAM 1500) have a green badge

Re: TomTom’s new mapping platform and ecosystem

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Google Maps has been a really garbage experience for me lately, so much so that I've been actively looking for alternatives. Sadly, there aren't many. Some of problems I've had with Google Maps recently: - Routing gives me weird bypasses that aren't necessary and often actually add time to the trip. I've started to not trust the routing. - The UX when searching for places is extremely difficult to navigate, especiall…

> - planning a route _without_ asking for directions is near impossible because many street and landmark names are not displayed This drives me absolutely batty . No matter how much I zoom in, I cannot see exit number labels. Sometimes they show up, at random places along the exit ramp, but I haven't figured out the rhyme or reason how. Real maps clearly label exit numbers of every exit. I don't understand why this i…

Navigating through Romania using Google Maps, I can't see the names of towns.

I have switched to OsmAnd, and the only thing I miss now and then is a good geocoder.

Re: TomTom’s new mapping platform and ecosystem

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post #205

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Google maps is fantastic. It beats literally everything else I can think of. But that’s scary. I want a competitor that offers at least roughly similar quality, but Google is so far ahead that it’s no contest.

In my experience, Apple Maps is on par with Google Maps (at least in the U.S.), esp with latest improvements in non-car routes (i.e., cycling, though I use Komoot for that anyway). However Google tends to have more POI (they're further ahead in the ad biz). With so many iPhones and Apple Maps being an smoother experience (Siri/OS integration), it definitely competes heavily with Google (at least in US).

I’ve been using it in the new electric car I got with CarPlay this year, and it’s fantastic. It’s integration with the battery charging is pretty much everything I want: it automatically chooses a charging point for a trip that will need a charge, based on my battery’s current charge level. It even tells me the number of minutes the charging will likely take, since it knows the speed of the chargers it recommends.

Last night I tried thr single button “Share ETA” from CarPlay, too.

Re: TomTom’s new mapping platform and ecosystem

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How is it stealing data? Most geospatial companies use OSM data, with OSM's permission, and it's a smart thing to do b/c they have a great map. Why wouldn't a mapmaker work with OSM data?

except google. They copied OSM data in the past, and used in their proprietary offering that includes reselling the data. A blatant offense of the OSM license. They were caught red handed in 2018 i think, and blamed on some contractors. But most interesting, despite this being a widely know fact for the mapping community, i can't find any mention of it anywhere today.

As hardcore-OSMer: this is pure FUD.

There are suspicions, but no hard proof has ever been found about this.

However, there is a well-known (and non-problematic) case where OSM-data is used in GMaps. Some polish bus agency used OSM to create their GTFS-feeds, which were ingested into GMaps. Selecting the bus line will thus show an OSM-based line layer; but as that line layer is clearly attributed with OpenStreetMap, that is totally fine; both legal and ethical. See https://twitter.com/MapAmorePH/status/1453863816110952450?t=...

Re: TomTom’s new mapping platform and ecosystem

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Google Maps has a few quirks. Here in Germany it always prefers to send you through 30km/h residential zones. Which might be somewhat faster than taking congested main roads but those 30km/h zones are terrible to drive through. There's always cars parked at one side of the street so you have to wait for oncoming traffic. The streets usually are very narrow. So the stress level to the driver is way higher. I also noti…

That sounds horrible for yellow and red cars. I hope all new cars are green.

Electric cars are all green, gas cars are green if they meet EURO 1, and diesel cars are green if they meet EURO 4 (or EURO 3 + retrofitted particulate filter)[1]. This is pretty loose for passenger cars: any made in the last fifteen years should all qualify [2].

[1] https://www.germanemissionssticker.com

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_emission_standards

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