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Re: Never trust a system that seems to be working

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As I and others have previously pointed out [1] foone uses they/them pronouns and feels particularly frustrated when their posts get featured on HN, because users here seem unable to honor this simple preference of theirs. It looks like they deleted their tweet out of frustration with todays latest round of misgendering. I hope people on HN will learn to respect all members of our community. Yes that involves not ass…

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Re: Never trust a system that seems to be working

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A bit of an off-topic: I only ever saw white traffic lights in the US and Canada (specifically, pedestrian traffic lights) and they confused me a lot at first - the rest of the world uses green. The icons displayed (hands) are confusing too: the rest of the world uses an icon of a man walking or standing.

The hand is to mimic that of a traffic cop. When they want you to stop, they hold up their hand to indicate that you need to stop. It used to be that you had to know english in order to understand them as well...many of the signs used to use the words "walk" and "don't walk"

:D I have a few of the "Walk" (in white) and "DON'T WALK" (in orange) signals around me in PNW.

Re: Never trust a system that seems to be working

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That’s the surest way to nerd snipe some people. This code doesn’t work, and yet it does. After reading the commit history, it in fact never worked, and yet it has been up until yesterday. What in the actual fuck.

The buggy behaviour of A caused buggy behaviour of B that caused buggy behaviour of C, just so happened to align enough to "look like it is working". Double fuckup if the thing is backups and your data is gone. Reason why we check not only "does the backup job finished" but also "does the size looks right", because backup with 0 files still returns OK...

Haha yeah, been there. I forget all the details, sadly, but there was some long-present bug with how the frontend architecture word in the dev environment that would keep the changes from being propagated. But every member of the team had set up a workaround so that, on their machine, it would load the correct assets some other, undocumented way, so they wouldn't notice the bug.

Re: Never trust a system that seems to be working

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This is why 4-20 mA is a common signaling standard in industrial automation. 4 mA means zero and 20 mA means one. 0 mA means broken transmitter !

That's one reason, but the big one is that it makes it easy to remote-power the sensors. It gives them a 4mA budget to Do Their Thing even when outputting a zero.

Re: Never trust a system that seems to be working

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I guess my point is that it was still confusing. It took me a day or two to acquire a reflex. It obviously doesn't matter in the long run - you just get used to it - but I wonder why would US & Canada go a different way with regards to so many small things (think turn signals on cars being red for american cars as another example)? What would be the rationale? It's as if the western hemisphere was completely cut off…

>I wonder why would US & Canada go a different way with regards to so many small things (think turn signals on cars being red for american cars as another example)? In many cases the US were the first to mass-manufacture things to some kind of standard, so the question is really: why did the rest of the world choose a different standard. Often they have a good reason (better design, maybe), but the US also has a good…

> In many cases the US were the first to mass-manufacture..

Traffic lights? Not so many actually?

Re: Never trust a system that seems to be working

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One reply tweet notes "a complex system always operates in a failure state", but to find more discussion on this point it's worth noting that this is a restatement of: > "The Fundamental Failure-Mode Theorem (F.F.T.): complex systems usually operate in a failure mode." -- John Gall, General Systemantics (aka Systemantics , aka The Systems Bible ), 1977 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemantics > Searching for "funda…

Also related: How Complex Systems Fail https://how.complexsystems.fail/

Re: Never trust a system that seems to be working

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Tweet seems to be deleted now. A brief summary of what it was: * In Factorio (game) you can have space stations that send supplies to your ground base * If the supplies are not caught, then they cause damage to your base * To avoid sending supplies that cannot be caught, you can use logic controls * A common approach is to have the station say "if (ground supply * This fails if the ground supply loses power, as no si…

That's also easier way to design it in Factorio. When I was playing with Space exploration mod that's precisely what I did, the base sent "shopping list" and the provider sent stuff on that shopping list
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